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	<title>Comments on: Two full frame Sony DSLRs this summer</title>
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		<title>By: Larry Bill</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1630</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, you&#039;re right, 3fps is more realistic.  A 12mp FF would probably sell really well for $999.  They&#039;d have to really screw it up for me not to get one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, you&#8217;re right, 3fps is more realistic.  A 12mp FF would probably sell really well for $999.  They&#8217;d have to really screw it up for me not to get one.</p>
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		<title>By: PR admin</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1621</link>
		<dc:creator>PR admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 02:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, I was not given a timeline but if they will release those in August (if true) we should know more in the next few weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, I was not given a timeline but if they will release those in August (if true) we should know more in the next few weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: jsv</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1618</link>
		<dc:creator>jsv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:35:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A $1K FF camera would raise plenty of eyebrows, and if it delivered acceptable image quality, it&#039;ll level the playing field.  

While Sony does have plenty of resources, we have to remember they&#039;ve been bleeding pretty bad due to the recession. Canon is in a much better position than either Sony or Nikon to bring out a FF camera in the 1000-1200US range. Still, whoever comes out with it first will make a killing...that&#039;s a no brainer. And maybe, just maybe, others will follow suit and we&#039;ll finally have the FF wars brought down to the level of us mere mortals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A $1K FF camera would raise plenty of eyebrows, and if it delivered acceptable image quality, it&#8217;ll level the playing field.  </p>
<p>While Sony does have plenty of resources, we have to remember they&#8217;ve been bleeding pretty bad due to the recession. Canon is in a much better position than either Sony or Nikon to bring out a FF camera in the 1000-1200US range. Still, whoever comes out with it first will make a killing&#8230;that&#8217;s a no brainer. And maybe, just maybe, others will follow suit and we&#8217;ll finally have the FF wars brought down to the level of us mere mortals.</p>
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		<title>By: lenswideopen</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1617</link>
		<dc:creator>lenswideopen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 21:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you get any information about when you will get an update on that rumour?

Somehow, I&#039;ve seen the variations of this rumour once too often....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you get any information about when you will get an update on that rumour?</p>
<p>Somehow, I&#8217;ve seen the variations of this rumour once too often&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: rwpl</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1611</link>
		<dc:creator>rwpl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 15:18:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes - its twice as much silicon is required and the probability of a doggy sensor is higher. But take  into account the fact that the technology is going foooorward. ;) 
Sony is huge. They have much more resources avaliable then Nikon or Canon and in opposite to Nikon They dont have to buy the FF sensors from them selfs. ;) We&#039;ll see but I think we see 1000$ FF  much faster then you think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes &#8211; its twice as much silicon is required and the probability of a doggy sensor is higher. But take  into account the fact that the technology is going foooorward. <img src='http://photorumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Sony is huge. They have much more resources avaliable then Nikon or Canon and in opposite to Nikon They dont have to buy the FF sensors from them selfs. <img src='http://photorumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  We&#8217;ll see but I think we see 1000$ FF  much faster then you think.</p>
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		<title>By: JCL</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1609</link>
		<dc:creator>JCL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 13:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay people, FULL FRAME sensors are expensive to make (being bigger, you cannot fit as much on a waffer and thus lose a lot more precious materials than by making aps-c sensors), they need better in camera processors and so on.

Plus, if you are using a full frame camera, you will need higher grade lenses (which are not too cheap either). So for under 1000$ it might happen, but give it 10 years at least (plus you&#039;re still gonna need good lenses if you really wanna use your sensor to the maximum).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay people, FULL FRAME sensors are expensive to make (being bigger, you cannot fit as much on a waffer and thus lose a lot more precious materials than by making aps-c sensors), they need better in camera processors and so on.</p>
<p>Plus, if you are using a full frame camera, you will need higher grade lenses (which are not too cheap either). So for under 1000$ it might happen, but give it 10 years at least (plus you&#8217;re still gonna need good lenses if you really wanna use your sensor to the maximum).</p>
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		<title>By: rwpl</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1605</link>
		<dc:creator>rwpl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 11:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If someone can do it ( 1000$ FF dslr ) its Sony.

They have all the technologies factories they need + they have money.

We all joke about sony dlsr - BUT THINK how the market would look 
when sony jumps in with 1k$ FF?? Just like once Canon with 5d or Nikon with D70 they will bring a pro features to the doorsteps of our home.

It might be a killer. Looking forward to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If someone can do it ( 1000$ FF dslr ) its Sony.</p>
<p>They have all the technologies factories they need + they have money.</p>
<p>We all joke about sony dlsr &#8211; BUT THINK how the market would look<br />
when sony jumps in with 1k$ FF?? Just like once Canon with 5d or Nikon with D70 they will bring a pro features to the doorsteps of our home.</p>
<p>It might be a killer. Looking forward to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: dirk</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1592</link>
		<dc:creator>dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 01:32:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>10 new cams - what kind of silly rumour! its a wish-list, nothing more!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>10 new cams &#8211; what kind of silly rumour! its a wish-list, nothing more!</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1591</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Try more like 3FPS(IMO).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try more like 3FPS(IMO).</p>
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		<title>By: regular</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1590</link>
		<dc:creator>regular</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really think the first company to introduce a cheap FF body will easily conquer a large market share. Every company is fighting for this 800-1000$ market segment (think D90, etc) like during the gold rush, but none has a real differentiator.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really think the first company to introduce a cheap FF body will easily conquer a large market share. Every company is fighting for this 800-1000$ market segment (think D90, etc) like during the gold rush, but none has a real differentiator.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1589</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:40:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still, $1k seems impossible. A FF chip, prism, and anti shake mechanism alone likely cost close to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still, $1k seems impossible. A FF chip, prism, and anti shake mechanism alone likely cost close to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1588</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve often wondered why Nikon or Canon hasn&#039;t done this already. If Nikon can sale a D90 for $750 then why exactly couldn&#039;t they sale an FX version for $1500 or so? Not all users need or want heavy tank-like magnesium bodies. I personally prefer them, but if I could get a full frame camera built as well as a D90 or Pentax K20D then to heck with the D300/Canon 50D class of camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve often wondered why Nikon or Canon hasn&#8217;t done this already. If Nikon can sale a D90 for $750 then why exactly couldn&#8217;t they sale an FX version for $1500 or so? Not all users need or want heavy tank-like magnesium bodies. I personally prefer them, but if I could get a full frame camera built as well as a D90 or Pentax K20D then to heck with the D300/Canon 50D class of camera.</p>
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		<title>By: WoutK89</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1587</link>
		<dc:creator>WoutK89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is not credible because the numbers in the MP are not, and if sony would release these cameras, they will have a big share of the market that is not able to get all they want out of their camera, where are the lenses for 18 MP cropped sensors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is not credible because the numbers in the MP are not, and if sony would release these cameras, they will have a big share of the market that is not able to get all they want out of their camera, where are the lenses for 18 MP cropped sensors?</p>
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		<title>By: PR admin</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1585</link>
		<dc:creator>PR admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 13:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The list was posted on dpreview, I did not make the list and I don&#039;t know if it is credible or not - that&#039;s what makes it a rumor. What makes you think that it is not credible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The list was posted on dpreview, I did not make the list and I don&#8217;t know if it is credible or not &#8211; that&#8217;s what makes it a rumor. What makes you think that it is not credible?</p>
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		<title>By: EdShan</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1584</link>
		<dc:creator>EdShan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you post this?
this list has 0 credibility. It is just a stupid guessing list.  If I made a list of 10 cameras I would expect a lucky guess too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you post this?<br />
this list has 0 credibility. It is just a stupid guessing list.  If I made a list of 10 cameras I would expect a lucky guess too.</p>
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		<title>By: Rokkor on!</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1580</link>
		<dc:creator>Rokkor on!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full frame for less than $1k could be a real game changer. 

I&#039;m sure it will happen someday, I just don&#039;t see it happening anytime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full frame for less than $1k could be a real game changer. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it will happen someday, I just don&#8217;t see it happening anytime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: WoutK89</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1579</link>
		<dc:creator>WoutK89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I understand right, the a800, a930 and a1000 are FF models? Than that would leave a few cropped sensor bodies with insane MP counts (18 MP)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I understand right, the a800, a930 and a1000 are FF models? Than that would leave a few cropped sensor bodies with insane MP counts (18 MP)</p>
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		<title>By: WoutK89</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1578</link>
		<dc:creator>WoutK89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where does it say no Live view? It says Video, only LCD no EVF (electronic viewfinder)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>where does it say no Live view? It says Video, only LCD no EVF (electronic viewfinder)</p>
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		<title>By: dr4gon</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/06/27/two-full-frame-sony-dslrs-this-summer/comment-page-1/#comment-1576</link>
		<dc:creator>dr4gon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw that DPR spec list the other day and don&#039;t think you can put much faith in that. I mean c&#039;mon, an a130 model with HD video, but no LV....? that doesn&#039;t even make sense. It&#039;s quite impractical and unrealistic for a camera like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw that DPR spec list the other day and don&#8217;t think you can put much faith in that. I mean c&#8217;mon, an a130 model with HD video, but no LV&#8230;.? that doesn&#8217;t even make sense. It&#8217;s quite impractical and unrealistic for a camera like this.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An under $1k full-frame DSLR would be very successful for Sony.
Something like a consumer class FF for the advanced enthusiast:

10-12mp FF Sensor
4-5fps
3&quot; Screen
Polycarbonate body
No Live View &amp; Video like the A900

They could very well adapt the same strategy as the PS3 and sell the body at a loss and make up on the lenses.
Though, perhaps something along $1500 is more realistic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An under $1k full-frame DSLR would be very successful for Sony.<br />
Something like a consumer class FF for the advanced enthusiast:</p>
<p>10-12mp FF Sensor<br />
4-5fps<br />
3&#8243; Screen<br />
Polycarbonate body<br />
No Live View &amp; Video like the A900</p>
<p>They could very well adapt the same strategy as the PS3 and sell the body at a loss and make up on the lenses.<br />
Though, perhaps something along $1500 is more realistic.</p>
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