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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/07/13/more-sony-dslr-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1790</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 13:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is pretty much rubbish...a DSLR will not be designed to compete with a professional video camera. Also, the poster does not know what he&#039;s talking about - the RedOne has a 12mp sensor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is pretty much rubbish&#8230;a DSLR will not be designed to compete with a professional video camera. Also, the poster does not know what he&#8217;s talking about &#8211; the RedOne has a 12mp sensor.</p>
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		<title>By: dyna</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/07/13/more-sony-dslr-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1746</link>
		<dc:creator>dyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes. Yes they are. All Nikon DSLR sensors are Sony. They have been from day one of Nikon&#039;s DSLR ventures.  Nikon finally admitted that the D3x was even a Sony sensor... don&#039;t know why it took so long, everybody else knew it: Nikon can&#039;t build a sensor. They only build the steppers that build sensors lol.  The reason for the season is that the Sony Bionz processor is archaic in comparison with the Nikon Xpeed system.  However, Sony is able to pull higher linear resolution out of the A900 than Nikon is out of the D3x, and that&#039;s with the fact that the D3x sensor is a better sensor than the one in the A900, developed seperately. 

But that&#039;s how it is right now: Color rendition vs. High ISO performance.  Which one do you really want? Because you can&#039;t have the best of both in one camera.  Yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes. Yes they are. All Nikon DSLR sensors are Sony. They have been from day one of Nikon&#8217;s DSLR ventures.  Nikon finally admitted that the D3x was even a Sony sensor&#8230; don&#8217;t know why it took so long, everybody else knew it: Nikon can&#8217;t build a sensor. They only build the steppers that build sensors lol.  The reason for the season is that the Sony Bionz processor is archaic in comparison with the Nikon Xpeed system.  However, Sony is able to pull higher linear resolution out of the A900 than Nikon is out of the D3x, and that&#8217;s with the fact that the D3x sensor is a better sensor than the one in the A900, developed seperately. </p>
<p>But that&#8217;s how it is right now: Color rendition vs. High ISO performance.  Which one do you really want? Because you can&#8217;t have the best of both in one camera.  Yet.</p>
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		<title>By: Loick</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/07/13/more-sony-dslr-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1743</link>
		<dc:creator>Loick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am working as pro photographer and I don&#039;t care at all about Video, I have no needs for it 
Red  or Sony are  far to be a  threat to Hasselblad and pro users</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am working as pro photographer and I don&#8217;t care at all about Video, I have no needs for it<br />
Red  or Sony are  far to be a  threat to Hasselblad and pro users</p>
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		<title>By: Rebel</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/07/13/more-sony-dslr-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1724</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m wrong!!
Nikon D700 and D3 sensors aren&#039;t made by Sony!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m wrong!!<br />
Nikon D700 and D3 sensors aren&#8217;t made by Sony!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rebel</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/07/13/more-sony-dslr-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1722</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes, all nikon sensor are made by Sony!</description>
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		<title>By: Rebel</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/07/13/more-sony-dslr-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1721</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there aren&#039;t any rumors about new Sony lenses??</description>
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		<title>By: theChipmunk</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/07/13/more-sony-dslr-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1720</link>
		<dc:creator>theChipmunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:28:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree. Saying that Sony can&#039;t compete with Canon and Nikon is ludicrous - at the moment, Canon and Nikon are just the trusted brands. Ask a pro what he would buy and the answer will 99% of the time be a Canon or Nikon camera. Indeed, I&#039;m avoiding Sony at the moment purely because I like Nikon&#039;s controls and I know I can get most F mount lenses to fit instantly, but they&#039;re coming up very fast. Canon and Nikon are still good, but they don&#039;t exactly dwarf Sony...

Sony has a lot more experience with microelectronics - Canon make printers etc...Nikon make tools for fabs, but Sony makes CD players, TVs, laptops, desktops, games consoles, media players/recorders, audio equipment, robots, software, memory, batteries, specialist processors, PDAs...the list goes on.

Sony is a company that generated $78.9 billion in revenue last year. That&#039;s not someone in a shed soldering resistors together.

Sony are definitely ones to watch.

theChipmunk</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree. Saying that Sony can&#8217;t compete with Canon and Nikon is ludicrous &#8211; at the moment, Canon and Nikon are just the trusted brands. Ask a pro what he would buy and the answer will 99% of the time be a Canon or Nikon camera. Indeed, I&#8217;m avoiding Sony at the moment purely because I like Nikon&#8217;s controls and I know I can get most F mount lenses to fit instantly, but they&#8217;re coming up very fast. Canon and Nikon are still good, but they don&#8217;t exactly dwarf Sony&#8230;</p>
<p>Sony has a lot more experience with microelectronics &#8211; Canon make printers etc&#8230;Nikon make tools for fabs, but Sony makes CD players, TVs, laptops, desktops, games consoles, media players/recorders, audio equipment, robots, software, memory, batteries, specialist processors, PDAs&#8230;the list goes on.</p>
<p>Sony is a company that generated $78.9 billion in revenue last year. That&#8217;s not someone in a shed soldering resistors together.</p>
<p>Sony are definitely ones to watch.</p>
<p>theChipmunk</p>
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		<title>By: dyna</title>
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		<dc:creator>dyna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 12:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For J. Smith: Every single Nikon sensor in every single Nikon DSLR was conceived, designed, and manufactured by Sony. As were the boards they were attached to, as are the LCD panels on the backs of the cameras.  Sony&#039;s sensor technology is top of the line, my friend. They currently manufacture 60% of the sensors in today&#039;s imaging devices.   Tear apart any Canon Powershot, including the G10, and lo: Sony technology.  Top of the line Ultrasound? Sony.  Some of the world&#039;s finest LCD panels? Sony. There&#039;s nothing to be ashamed of there. Everyone borrows from everyone else.  Nikon hasn&#039;t built a Coolpix in 4 years. They leave it up to others to take care of it.  So what? If it wasn&#039;t for licensing, no one would get anywhere.  I hate to break it to you but SONY is the world&#039;s foremost sensor, consumer, and broadcast manufacturer.  Sony also happens to be one of the largest optical manufacturers in the world, especially now that they own Minolta&#039;s optical facilities.  If you think the Minolta and Zeiss engineers can&#039;t produce some quality glass, you&#039;re plain deluded.  

In video?  Canon may be the official sponsor of the NFL but all that lovely HD is shot on SONY. MLB? SONY. The vast majority of all newscasts in HD? SONY.  Deal with that.  It&#039;s not due to guerilla tactics, it&#039;s due to quality product. You can pick on the big bad corporation all you want but the truth of the matter is that a.) Sony got to where it is by having good products for a reasonable price that happen to last a long time, coupled with damn good marketing that allows brand recognition once known only by brands like Kodak and Polaroid.  Like Toyota, they are not always the best but they are certainly a damn good value.  b.) One thing Americans need to understand: Japan is one big consumer electronics company that controls their market and technological pace in a most calculated manner, somewhat similar to the way DeBeers corp controls the flow of diamonds to the market. The technology exists to produce a near perfectly spec&#039;d DSLR, RIGHT NOW. It is NOT, however, in anyone&#039;s best business interests, unfortunately, to produce such a creature. Drawing out the process makes ever so much more money on the dollar.  Of all the DSLR manufacturers currently in the game, Sony is the only one with the resources to seriously pull it off in the shortest amount of time possible... but they won&#039;t. They make too much money in licensing and, further, it&#039;s not in anyone&#039;s best ideal interests to see Nikon in particular take the dive... which Nikon is apparently trying to do anyway, at least NikonUSA with the way they&#039;re just hemorrhaging money the past two years. Sony&#039;s DSLRs are not just hear to stay, they will keep breaking barriers... because they can.  People cried the death of Olympus, too, and they&#039;re still around... because they innovate.  Canon and Nikon haven&#039;t innovated in nearly 3 years... any success Nikon has had is directly related to the sensors licensed by Sony.  Canon&#039;s merely in transition. There&#039;s no doubt the next few years will be interesting... but Sony&#039;s here to stay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For J. Smith: Every single Nikon sensor in every single Nikon DSLR was conceived, designed, and manufactured by Sony. As were the boards they were attached to, as are the LCD panels on the backs of the cameras.  Sony&#8217;s sensor technology is top of the line, my friend. They currently manufacture 60% of the sensors in today&#8217;s imaging devices.   Tear apart any Canon Powershot, including the G10, and lo: Sony technology.  Top of the line Ultrasound? Sony.  Some of the world&#8217;s finest LCD panels? Sony. There&#8217;s nothing to be ashamed of there. Everyone borrows from everyone else.  Nikon hasn&#8217;t built a Coolpix in 4 years. They leave it up to others to take care of it.  So what? If it wasn&#8217;t for licensing, no one would get anywhere.  I hate to break it to you but SONY is the world&#8217;s foremost sensor, consumer, and broadcast manufacturer.  Sony also happens to be one of the largest optical manufacturers in the world, especially now that they own Minolta&#8217;s optical facilities.  If you think the Minolta and Zeiss engineers can&#8217;t produce some quality glass, you&#8217;re plain deluded.  </p>
<p>In video?  Canon may be the official sponsor of the NFL but all that lovely HD is shot on SONY. MLB? SONY. The vast majority of all newscasts in HD? SONY.  Deal with that.  It&#8217;s not due to guerilla tactics, it&#8217;s due to quality product. You can pick on the big bad corporation all you want but the truth of the matter is that a.) Sony got to where it is by having good products for a reasonable price that happen to last a long time, coupled with damn good marketing that allows brand recognition once known only by brands like Kodak and Polaroid.  Like Toyota, they are not always the best but they are certainly a damn good value.  b.) One thing Americans need to understand: Japan is one big consumer electronics company that controls their market and technological pace in a most calculated manner, somewhat similar to the way DeBeers corp controls the flow of diamonds to the market. The technology exists to produce a near perfectly spec&#8217;d DSLR, RIGHT NOW. It is NOT, however, in anyone&#8217;s best business interests, unfortunately, to produce such a creature. Drawing out the process makes ever so much more money on the dollar.  Of all the DSLR manufacturers currently in the game, Sony is the only one with the resources to seriously pull it off in the shortest amount of time possible&#8230; but they won&#8217;t. They make too much money in licensing and, further, it&#8217;s not in anyone&#8217;s best ideal interests to see Nikon in particular take the dive&#8230; which Nikon is apparently trying to do anyway, at least NikonUSA with the way they&#8217;re just hemorrhaging money the past two years. Sony&#8217;s DSLRs are not just hear to stay, they will keep breaking barriers&#8230; because they can.  People cried the death of Olympus, too, and they&#8217;re still around&#8230; because they innovate.  Canon and Nikon haven&#8217;t innovated in nearly 3 years&#8230; any success Nikon has had is directly related to the sensors licensed by Sony.  Canon&#8217;s merely in transition. There&#8217;s no doubt the next few years will be interesting&#8230; but Sony&#8217;s here to stay.</p>
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		<title>By: Fotograf Stuttgart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fotograf Stuttgart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of course. Nikon is so new and nerdy to all those camera things.
OMG

wouldnt be better said, it is industrial quality glass maker worldwide leader and one of oldest and biggest professional camera and equipment maker on the world?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course. Nikon is so new and nerdy to all those camera things.<br />
OMG</p>
<p>wouldnt be better said, it is industrial quality glass maker worldwide leader and one of oldest and biggest professional camera and equipment maker on the world?</p>
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		<title>By: Fotograf Stuttgart</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/07/13/more-sony-dslr-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1706</link>
		<dc:creator>Fotograf Stuttgart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying was &quot;you can&#039;t get fired for buying IBM&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying was &#8220;you can&#8217;t get fired for buying IBM&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Alvar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alvar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 08:14:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, the D3X sensor was made by Sony! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, the D3X sensor was made by Sony! <img src='http://photorumors.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/07/13/more-sony-dslr-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1702</link>
		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 23:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some of the facts may (or may not) be correct, but the analysis is just plain BS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of the facts may (or may not) be correct, but the analysis is just plain BS.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Smith</title>
		<link>http://photorumors.com/2009/07/13/more-sony-dslr-rumors/comment-page-1/#comment-1701</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best Nikon sensor was designed by Nikon. Canon sensors are excellent too. Sony sensors are good at most for webcams, but Sony is using guerrilla tactics to stuff it in other brands. Sony is a very bad company. All they want are your money and in return they spit out junk phones and toy electronics. The poo brand for dumb nerds! Don&#039;t buy it! Buy yourself a mailorder bride instead!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best Nikon sensor was designed by Nikon. Canon sensors are excellent too. Sony sensors are good at most for webcams, but Sony is using guerrilla tactics to stuff it in other brands. Sony is a very bad company. All they want are your money and in return they spit out junk phones and toy electronics. The poo brand for dumb nerds! Don&#8217;t buy it! Buy yourself a mailorder bride instead!</p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Sony can’t really compete technology-wise with Canon or Nikon&quot;

And Sony relies on Nikon for the sensors in their most popular DSLRs!

...or was it the other way around?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sony can’t really compete technology-wise with Canon or Nikon&#8221;</p>
<p>And Sony relies on Nikon for the sensors in their most popular DSLRs!</p>
<p>&#8230;or was it the other way around?</p>
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		<title>By: Daddy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 21:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canon, Nikon, Sony, Mambo-Jumbo. Who cares? The rumors are BS. Some comments from Canon-headed users (I do not call them photographers) are BS too. Go take some pictures, guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canon, Nikon, Sony, Mambo-Jumbo. Who cares? The rumors are BS. Some comments from Canon-headed users (I do not call them photographers) are BS too. Go take some pictures, guys.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me, but RED is junk compared to Sony and Panasonic. Only RED fan boys see it differently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me, but RED is junk compared to Sony and Panasonic. Only RED fan boys see it differently.</p>
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		<title>By: David D</title>
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		<dc:creator>David D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you post this junk? It shows that this is not at all serious site.  Comparing the RED with the ex1/ex3 and the scarlet which is not even out yet? It shows your own lack of knowledge to put this crap up, anybody reading this knows this guy is a total 14 year old moron.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you post this junk? It shows that this is not at all serious site.  Comparing the RED with the ex1/ex3 and the scarlet which is not even out yet? It shows your own lack of knowledge to put this crap up, anybody reading this knows this guy is a total 14 year old moron.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still I believe that the rumor is all BS. Sony can&#039;t really compete technology-wise with Canon or Nikon. All they can do are toys like the Playstation with some wierd Blu-Boy disc drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still I believe that the rumor is all BS. Sony can&#8217;t really compete technology-wise with Canon or Nikon. All they can do are toys like the Playstation with some wierd Blu-Boy disc drive.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 15:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s the world&#039;s foremost sensor, consumer and broadcast electronic manufacturer, lined up with the world&#039;s most respected lens maker against the 

copy machine and calculator maker Canon - with products only nerds love

and the industrial product maker Nikon - with products for factories that again only nerds love

That explains why DPR loves them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the world&#8217;s foremost sensor, consumer and broadcast electronic manufacturer, lined up with the world&#8217;s most respected lens maker against the </p>
<p>copy machine and calculator maker Canon &#8211; with products only nerds love</p>
<p>and the industrial product maker Nikon &#8211; with products for factories that again only nerds love</p>
<p>That explains why DPR loves them.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Lambert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Lambert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 12:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are not facts at all but a compilation of my views on another forum.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1037&amp;message=32345141
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1037&amp;message=32353533
There is more, but you should get the idea that this person has a need to feel important and that once in while he compiles a statement claiming it is from a reliable source at SONY.
He knows how to use already published data and generated these rumors that in the end have no merit.   If he ends up being wright, its by pure luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are not facts at all but a compilation of my views on another forum.<br />
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There is more, but you should get the idea that this person has a need to feel important and that once in while he compiles a statement claiming it is from a reliable source at SONY.<br />
He knows how to use already published data and generated these rumors that in the end have no merit.   If he ends up being wright, its by pure luck.</p>
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