Samsung NX10 still on center stage (specs, 30 fps burst video sample)

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Samsung NX10/Olympus E-410 size comparison

Samsung NX10 specs (Korean text translated by a reader - thanks P.):

초당 30장 연사지원에 (풀 사이즈는 아닌 듯;;)
Supports 30FPS bursts (probably not full sized pictures)

720p 동영상 지원
720p video support

369g 바디무게
369g body weight

1.5 크랍
1.5 crop

3인치 아몰레드 액정 92만화소
3 inch AMOLED screen 920,000 pixels

11개 측거점
11 point autofocus

시야율 100% 92만화소 전자식 뷰파인더
100% viewfinder, 920,000 pixel electronic viewfinder

0.2초의 af 속도 (올림 pen 0.6 파나 gf 0.3)
0.2 second AF speed (Olympus 0.6 Panasonic 0.3)

ISO 100~3200

12가지 장면모드 (스마트 모드)
12 scene modes (smart mode)

9가지 색감모드 (스마트 필터)
9 color modes (Smart filter)

스마트 레인지 (dr)
Smart range (DR)

저광량 상황에서 af 보조광도 있고 제 칠뜨기 보다 빨리 잡는듯...;;;
AF-assist lamp in low light and faster AF acquisition than 7D

30mm 2.0 팬케익 렌즈...
30mm 2.0 pancake lens

NX 30fps burst mode: 60-frame animated GIF sample created with the 30fps burst mode of the Samsung NX10.

See previous rumored Samsung NX10 specs here.

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  • RichT

    30 fps! That’s crazy! Only Casio offers anything like that at the consumer end. I’m wondering if it’s something more akin to the burst mode on the Pentax k20d, which is really just a video/live view capture that is output as a series of still images. It would truly be a coup if Samsung has developed an affordable APS-C sensor capable of shooting 30fps, even if it were only in a cropped mode (heck even 20fps would be a breakthrough). Sony has built several tiny high-speed sensors like the ones in Casio’s cameras, and I believe Kodak has been dabbling in high-speed CCD sensors up to 4/3″ in size but I don’t think they’re cheap. My gut is telling me this is just a variation on some sort of video capture mode, I hope I’m wrong

    • WoutK89

      The D3s is limited by it’s mirror to shoot 30fps with AF ;-) It’s nothing new to shoot 30 fps, just the processing speed of most compacts is far too low to do so.

      • WoutK89

        Oh, and consumer, well, a D5000/D90 will probably be able to do so too, it’s just the small form factor of the compacts that mostly limits it’s speed.

      • RichT

        Actually it’s not so much the mirror that limits speed it’s the shutter curtain, there’s a physical limit as to how fast that curtain can open and close. But by using live view you don’t need either – you can shoot as fast as data can be grabbed off the sensor. The lack of a physical shutter leads the phenom known as rolling shutter. Right now the 5fps rate quoted by Samsung’s current sensor is pretty much as fast as its electronics will allow data from the entire sensor to be dumped off the chip into the processor, their sensor for the NX10 should be faster, how much I don’t know.

        Video and live view get around this slow limit by either binning clumps of pixels into a superpixel which gets read off the sensor, or by subsampling, which just samples about every 6th pixel on the sensor. Either way it cuts way down on how many pixels need to be read off the sensor.

        There are specialty sensors on the market today that can read every photosite at 30 (or more) times per second. Sony I believe is the only company that currently sells consumer sensors capable of scanning the entire sensor at video-speed. See the following articles:

        http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol47/np_imx017.html

        http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol55/np_imx032cqr.html

        Note that Sony’s popular 12.5mp APS-C sensor is only capable of a 10 fps readout:

        http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200708/07-072E/index.html

        You can see a list of Kodak’s fast CCD sensors here, listed by megapixel, sensor size, and maximum fps:

        http://www.kodak.com:80/global/en/business/ISS/Products/Interline/index.jhtml?pq-path=11937/11938/14424

        As you can see no APS-C sensors offer anywhere near 30 fps in full scan mode, they’d either have to crop (pretty severely) or use binning as Sony describes. If Samsung released such a sensor on a sub-$1000 camera it would be revolutionary, a large 14mp sensor that fast is still very expensive in 2009. That’s why I’m thinking the 30fps burst rate is, at its core, just a version of video (an option for a cropped mode would be great).

        Was anybody able to get a look at the sample burst? I got a dead link.

    • Sky

      yep. it’s all about the mirror. Sensors in new Sony DSLRs are capable of delivering about 50 fps in full resolution – but the mirror cannot flap that fast ;) Not saying about processing all that data…

      • WoutK89

        And why does it need to flap? :-P

        For AUTOFOCUS, so RichT, yes the mirror is the biggest limitation ;-)

        • RichT

          Well the link seems to work now.

          One thing though about the NX10, I was under the impression there will be NO mirror box in it, so it will presumably need to use an AF similar to the ones used in micro 4/3 or small sensor cameras. Whether it can AF in burst mode or video I don’t know, according to Samsung it can focus faster than Panasonic’s m4/3. But generally you want very fast burst modes to be locked down (no change in focus, exposure, WB, etc).

          The sample at slrclub is too small to tell the quality of the burst mode, hopefully it’s larger than 800×530! The other posters are likely right, it’s probably just a slightly modified version of its video mode using the whole sensor instead of a cropped 16:9 aspect.

          And I have not seen a DSLR sensor made by Sony that can deliver anything remotely close to 50 fps, if you have a link to one I’d love to see it. But I’m pretty sure there isn’t one – they could probably do it if they wanted since they’re already up to 60 fps on a small (1/1.8″) sensor but I’m sure it wouldn’t be cheap, there’s a lot of “stuff” that would have to be built onto the chip

  • Din

    This is video rate non still image.
    30fps is very common.

  • WoutK89

    The link to the GIF sample is not working:

    http://media.slrclub.com/0912/20/1261313162_Eric.gif

    Samsung been knocking on the door?

  • Adam

    Want 30 fps? Just record a video in 30 fps and split up the images to 30 images in 1 sec. Doesn’t it work that way?

  • http://www.jsvfoto.com JSV

    Here’s the fellow who posted the animated gif:

    http://blog.paran.com/payton#

    Odd that it doesn’t appear on his blog.

    Here’s an NX10 that was spotted out and about the city:
    http://blog.daum.net/miriya/15600905?srchid=IIMrqONd000#A1764D6044B32BBA24236C4

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