Samsung working on a medium format digital camera system?

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Going back to the picture of Samsung camera prototypes posted here yesterday - a reader reminded me about an old rumor that Samsung, Schneider Kreuznach and Alpa are working together to create the first, fully digital, medium format camera system. Why would Samsung have those large square camera prototypes next to their NX bodies? Can someone identify the silver lens attached to one of the square cameras? There are some similar Schneider Kreuznach lenses on eBay. You can check also schneideroptics.com.

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  • Vince

    This was on Gizmodo earlier and the author claimed the “boxy” were too weird to make it past the prototype stage. It was clear that he had never heard of the vastly popular, high quality, successful Hasselblads, Bronicas, etc that used that very same design for decades, nor did he apparently do any research whatsoever before publishing his loosely defined “article”.

    That said I WANT THAT ONE STANDING ON ITS SIDE WITH ALL THE DIALS ON TOP!! Make mine an F mount, please :-)

  • asdasd

    too small to be medium format.

    • Foreigner

      The Kodak Vest Pocket was medium format and was smaller than a Nikon FM with a pancake 50mm f/1.8.
      It’s not because most of the MF camera are big that they need to be big.

  • di-sign

    Yes, it’s really to small. Just another plain square sensor…

    Oh wait we didn’t have square in digital. Hope Schneider are back in photography.

  • What’s a Pentax?

    A good idea for Samsung would be a medium format DSLR with a very shallow registration distance and a low price. I like the look of the square model in the picture above.

    Imagine, with the proper adapter being able to use old Bronica, Hasselblad, Pentax, Mamiya and other legacy medium format lenses all on one camera. The camera would have to be profitable to produce from day one. Legacy glass use would be a strong selling point bt could limit profits brought in by the sale of new lenses.

    Samsung kind of blew it with the NX, the registration distance is too long to use Leica or Voigtlander M series lenses. That’s why I went with the Sony NEX 5.

    • http://www.flickr.com/genotypewriter genotypewriter

      A good idea for Samsung would be a medium format DSLR with a very shallow registration distance and a low price.

      As long as there’s a mirror, there’s a limit to how much you can bring the lens mount close to the sensor. For a bigger sensor you need a bigger mirror.

      Imagine, with the proper adapter being able to use old Bronica, Hasselblad, Pentax, Mamiya and other legacy medium format lenses all on one camera.

      The Mamiya 645 mount has adapters for taking Bronica, Hasselblad, Pentax and can technically take all known medium format lenses except the Mamiya 7 (RF) lenses. And they have digital backs ranging from 20-56MP now too.

      Samsung kind of blew it with the NX, the registration distance is too long to use Leica or Voigtlander M series lenses.

      Actually the differences in the flange distance, 2.3mm, is enough to create an adapter. For example the widely used C/Y lens to Canon EOS adapters are only 1.5mm and support the weights of big SLR lenses. The problem in the NX mount is in its diameter which is 2mm smaller than diameter of the M mount.

  • What’s a Pentax?

    On second thought, Samsung should make a square mirrorless Medium Format camera. That way the registration distance could be kept short and just about any lens, Medium Format, 35mm, etc. could be used.

    • Foreigner

      Even if the distance is shorter than Nikon’s one and they provide an adaptation ring, the problem is still that the lens coverage from nikon lenses gives a circle of image of around 43mm diameter.
      So most of your MF sensor will not be exposed, making it as useful as using directly a Nikon camera.

      • What’s a Pentax?

        Yes, but instead of being cropped horizontally, a more square cropped format would be available from 35mm lenses. You could get a full circle from your 35mm lens then crop it however you like.

  • jonathan
  • Joaquim prado

    This flip LCD screen don’t sound a good idea for a square medium format. Pretty sure improve system because you take the mirror off and reduces a lot the vibration and leave space for a very silent shutter on the body. But I think they should have a better idea for a viewfinder for this kind of camera if they want to reach professionals costumers. I miss a modern modular camera, such bronica and nikon F was years ago, variety of viewfinders it’s a issue for this system and any digital system offer such a feature!

  • bordsteinschwalbe

    1. an evil medium format camera don´t need the cube format, because there is not mirrorbox.
    2. sensor prototype cameras often have this body form, because you donnot hold this cameras in yout hands. the tests are stationary, you donnot need a grip, it stands all the time on the tripod!

    • http://www.flickr.com/genotypewriter genotypewriter

      1. But there needs to be room for the battery, card and other electronics. Current mirrorless designs are wider than the lens mount and so they can accommodate them without needing more depth. Also there’s a pull-out LCD on the back of that body. So it’s not that deep after all.

      2. Maybe so but looking at the stylised buttons, display, camera strap attachment bits and the pull out LCD screen, this looks anything but like a plain box to test a sensor in.

  • amien

    I am waiting for this for such a long time : a cropped squared 24mmX 24mm FF sensor with Nikon, M42,etc… adaptors, give it 16MP, that would be a dream.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/ZDP189 ZDP-189

    I saw the original. As I said at the time, the one with the dials looks good…

    … but I’ll add: until you realise you can’t use Leica or Contax lenses with it.

  • john

    I think the box camera was supposed to be a video unit. A la red.

  • http://iamphoto.ca arash m

    Wow the one leaning with all the dials on top looks awesome!
    couple that with a GOOD EVF and I’m sold.
    I like Samsung’s system so far, they really understand the lens end of things, Pancakes, zooms, primes, super zooms….. it’s great.
    am

  • Bill

    Its too bad Samsung didnt make the NX series deep enough to put Leica M glass with adaptors. Major disappointmet there, for me at least.

  • http://cremediaproductions.com t stroh

    This is a great idea, but in terms of “first true mfd” from the ground up, this looks like it’s going to be that by default because it’s a closed system. Do you guys think this is even going to have a mirrorbox or a shutter system? Even a pc sync looks like a stretch! It looks pretty cheap… But, maybe I’m just being a skeptic.

  • http://photoartbymark.zenfolio.com photoartbymark

    hope it becomes a reality

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