SanDisk will not produce XQD memory cards, will support CFast 2.0

In an interview at Photokina, SanDisk representative confirmed that the company has no plans to produce XQD memory cards, instead they will concentrate on developing memory cards based on the CFast 2.0 standard, which promises interface speed up to 600MB/sec.

Last week I already mentioned that at Photokina 2012 no new cameras were announced with XQD support (not even the high end Sony a99 and RX1). The Nikon D4 is currently the only camera with XQD support.

Few months ago Lexar did announce their plans to support the XQD format.

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  • fjfjjj

    Nikon screwed D4 owners to please Sony.

    • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com genotypewriter

      The D4′s half-baked camera anyway, considering what they should have done after the success they had with the D3 and D700. It’s clear they put all their efforts in to the better-selling consumer models like the D7000 and D800 and ignored the top end in this round.

      This is not bad news… I’m sure the D5 will compensate for what the D4 lacks and maybe more.

      • truth

        Yeah such a half baked camera. Idk why all these pros are scooping them up and raving about them. Maybe Nikon should hire you. You clearly have your finger on the pulse.

        • Calibrator

          The D4 builds on a good foundation (D3s) but it’s still a disappointment for many.
          Pro: +4 MP (perhaps the only substantial upgrade for still photographers), much better video, illuminated buttons
          Contra: only 10 frames/s, only slightly better noise performance, XQD-slot instead of two CF-slots (Nikon needs it for performance, but the Canon is faster with CF?), also: CF incompatibilities! (they didn’t learn from the D7000 SD-card debacle)

          The D4 is nothing more than a refresh to milk some money out of people. Don’t get me wrong: It’s not bad, far from it – but it’s not as good as it could have been.
          Add to this Nikon’s tendency for extremely overpriced add-ons like the Wifi module and you get an expensive package with a bitter taste.

          • Well now

            I was against Nikon using XQD when it first came out — forcing another “Sony experiment” on us. (Sony wins some and loses some – but its always a flip of the coin with them in anything related to proprietary… they are much better at branding).

            But you don’t need to worry. XQD is more than fast enough RIGHT NOW for the generation of cameras using them. Might you have wasted a $200 bucks to fund Sony’s venture. Yes. But your camera is still EXCELLENT and its not like Canon and Nikon and Sony don’t charge you $100 here $100 there on every other thing anyway.

            This generation is quite well covered and the current cards do their job. The dumb thing is that you might not be able to use them again later on. But that has nothing to do with the Camera (and anyway, memory has always been sort of like that……. does anyone use their 512MB cards anymore except as “extreme backup”??)

            Get over it. But yeah — no more Sony Memory, PLEASE.

          • Ben Dover

            (crawls from under a rock and says to Calibrator)
            What “D7000 SD-card debacle”?
            Nothing bad about NOT having to carry 2 different types of cards.

  • Pablo Ricasso

    Ho. Good thing they didn’t give it TWO XQD slots!

  • stepper

    Thank goodness! I really don’t think we need yet another type of flash memory card…. Especially not another Sony proprietary one!

    • Jesus_sti

      It’s not proprietary to Sony.

      • fjfjjj

        When you have a “standard” that only one company uses, and nobody else wants, what’s the difference?

        • Big J

          It’s not legally bound so it DOES make a tremendous difference.

    • Je ne comprends

      Lexar XQD card………..There are more than one brand in sales.
      Two cards of the same speed,XQD card is cheaper than the CF card.

  • Russ

    It’s a shame. Be great to get rid of CF cards and the pins associated with them that lots of people have trouble with (even though some may not).

    It’s not a Sony proprietary one, it’s standardised by the CF Assoc.

    What casing are these CFast cards in? A standard old CF case?

    • Discontinued

      Agreed. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME on SanDisk.

      The CF-cards with all their pins where originally designed to stay within an electronic device, such as palm top computers or whatever. Look up the history of CF, everybody who doesn’t believe me.

      They where never meant to be changed frequently. I am so happy that my D800E has only one CF (which stays in the body). SD is what I change when I run out of memory.

      • Plug

        +1. SanDisk and Lexar make equally good cards. Mine will be Lexar in future as prices are similar.

  • http://photosynthesis.gr/photoblog GfK

    practically speaking XQD has all the benefits from CF (speed, robust, sealed) and SD (small).
    I really enjoy using it in my D4. Very expensive though

  • http://www.niklasbergstrand.com/ Niklas Bergstrand

    The CFast card are just stupid, they’re twice the size of XQD for no reason. The Compact Flash cards are oversized with todays memory technology, I’d rather have something useful in the camera such as a GPS, WIFI or dual slots as a bonus instead of huge cards that makes the cameras bigger or take up place that could be useful for other things.

    • http://photosynthesis.gr/photoblog GfK

      or a CF that includes WiFi and GPS

  • Musouka

    Okay, speed is one thing but what about larger capacities?

    From one of the sources, “Mr. Shigeto Kanda of Canon and the CFA chairman”… that should explain the resistance to change :P

  • Small

    Interestingly SATA is changing to PCI Extress with SATA Express because it fits better to flash memory. CFast is based on the old SATA, which was designed for hard disk, and not flash. So it looks, there will be a CFast Express in the near future, which is based on PCI Express again. ;-)

  • truth

    “has no plans to produce XQD memory cards” Maybe this year they wont. But they will… XQD is better in every way and they will eventually have to follow suit.

  • Owen

    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I heard that XQD consumes more power then a CF card.

    Though, I personally feel, XQD as the future card, it basically merges both the benefits of CF and SD card. It’s a pity flash manufacturers is slowing or taking their own sweet time adopting it.

    • http://photorumors.com PR admin

      I think you are correct, I read something similar.

  • Musouka

    Looks like I was lazy to do my homework and just assumed CFast would be compatible with CF. Turns out it is not. It looks like another format war is coming soon with Nikon, Sony and Lexar behind XQD versus Canon, Phase One and SanDisk behind CFast :/

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57516672-1/cfast-2.0-splits-high-end-flash-card-market/

    Great, just great. How can the CFA approve two standards?

  • Drew

    I’m actually going to have to back XQD on this one as it XQD appears to be the better choice for the professional market over CFast 2.0 for the following reasons…

    1. XQD uses PCI Express for its data transfer interface over SATA (and so is anyone else looking for maximum transfer speed – Thunderbolt/Lightpeak, SSD manufacturers, etc)
    2. Form factor is smaller than CF/CFast 2.0, but isn’t so small that it risks IMO being fragile (ie SD)
    3. XQD 2.0 will deliver data speeds of 1,000 MB/s (via PCI Express 3.0), is backward compatible with XQD 1.0 (and PCI Express 1 & 2), and improved power management (5mW standby)
    4. It’s CFA approved and already out in the market

  • Rob

    I like the XQD, its super fast. Even when transferring files on the computer the progress bar just races to the other end. Is it any coincidence that the people complaining dont own a D4. I just tested the D800 and loved it, but it is a camera you have to take your time with. The D4 just does what you need it to fast.

    Now if sandisk wants to play games and switch support teams good for them but I will consider other brands personally. I have tons of sandisk cards in SD and CF but im not married to that like I am to what my camera supports. Now why Sony is not supporting their own format has me baffled.

    • KnightPhoto

      I too love my XQD. Before this dust up, I was thinking D400 should also have one XQD and one CF. And Geez Sony should have plugged XQD into every one of their new releases!

      Still and all, XQD should win this battle as it is better all around. Let’s leave Canon with the crappy sensors and crappy CF cards ;-)

      • Big J

        Uff low blow on Canon there lol! Anyways, I agree with the D400 using XQD. Would make total sense since it’ll be used for fast pictures with a high fps. And of course it’s most likely gonna have if anything more MP if not slightly. In order to compensate it would make sense to incorporate such a system. Plus XQD doesn’t look that big so chances are the D400 will be of decent size and not overly bulky.

      • Jim

        CFfast vs. XQD

        I like the size/ergonomics of the CF card form factor. the SD cards seem too small for me. Have not held an XQD card, but I feel it will be on the small side.

        • http://photosynthesis.gr/photoblog GfK

          it is thick as a CF is
          and it feels robust and reliable.
          SD cards are for kids, I ‘ve broken many of them

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