PhaseOne IQ250 coming soon with a…. new 50MP CMOS sensor

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There could be a reason for the "announcement of an announcement" Hasselblad did earlier today for their 50MP CMOS sensor based H5D-50c medium format camera: PhaseOne is going to announce their new IQ250 digital back (see screenshot above) that will have... a new 50MP CMOS sensor, 2 fps, 15 stops dynamic range and ISO up to 6400. The official PhaseOne announcement should happen this Friday and they will actually show a working camera (unless they decide to postpone it after Hasselblad's move).

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  • saywhatuwill

    I said that Hasselblad will put PhaseOne on their ear to force them to catch up, I guess they heard Hasselblad and decided to “announce” that they too have the same thing coming. I guess some sensor developer came out with a medium format CMOS chip and is peddling it to everyone.

    • cameranerd

      Or Hasselblad caught wind that P1 had an announcement coming up and put together their pre announcement, announcement. Guess we will see who has a physical product to show first before too long.

      Either way if the rumor is true, I bet ISO6400 on a medium format CMOS sensor looks amazing. That’s good news for photographers no matter who is making the sensor.

      • Remedy

        The thing is people using medium format cameras never ever cared about high ISO. They got all the light they need.

        • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

          It’s like saying people who shoot instagram never care about accurate colours because they are too cool for it :)

      • jk

        but at the cost of low ISO IQ and skintone.
        I am extremely curious who is actually designing it for Phase and Hassy.. but proper LV alone makes it worth it even at the cost of low ISO image quality.

        • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

          By that logic 35mm FF is unsuitable for low ISO and “skintones”.

          The whole “skintone” thing is a lot of rubbish… in the days of the Fuji S5 Pro, people use to soil their pants in excitement about how skin tones looked… but the problem is the tones were not accurate. They were pink!

          The photosites of sensors can’t selectively act differently when a human stands in front of the lens. It’s RGB, not RGBS with an additional photosite for skins lol If skin tones are off then other things will be off too. Anyone serious about colour does a colour calibration anyway so the whole topic is something that armchair dog/cat photographers go on about.

        • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

          By that logic 35mm FF is unsuitable for low ISO and “skintones”.

          The whole “skintone” thing is a lot of rubbish… in the days of the Fuji S5 Pro, people use to soil their pants in excitement about how skin tones looked… but the problem is the tones were not accurate. They were pink!

          The photosites of sensors can’t selectively act differently when a human stands in front of the lens. It’s RGB, not RGBS with an additional photosite for skins lol If skin tones are off then other things will be off too. Anyone serious about colour does a colour calibration anyway so the whole topic is something that armchair dog/cat photographers go on about.

      • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

        If it’s the same size as the current “full frame 645″ sensors, it should be close to 1 1/2 stops better than 35mm FF after things are normalised.

        • knut

          How do you normalize to get that figure?

          • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

            In hindsight I should have said “things are equalised” instead. With “things” being captured resolution.

    • jk

      so, can you guess who is it?

  • sayithere

    is it Sony’s 50MP sensor? If so, I believe the next one will be Pentax.

    • jk

      hope not.

      • TinusVerdino

        You bet. CP+ will bring a new 645D

  • camaman

    50MP is So 2012! No matter what the tech.
    They need 100MP cmos if they want to make a jump in their offerings.

    I take that back if this 50MP will be sub <$5k

    • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

      If you can only afford <$5K they're not even interested in your existence.

  • jk

    last night I said something really silly here, but I think MF movie could be possible , but the DOF is just a bit too thin.
    so who will make this sensor?

    • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

      It’s not like DOF is always thinner on larger formats. You can stop the lens down to get the desired DOF.

      Also 35mm has very fast lenses like f/1.2 and f/1.4 in most fields of view but 645 digital medium format doesn’t have many equivalent (f/1.8 and f/2 respectively) lenses… especially in the wides.

      • Ken Elliott

        Ah, you’re not a video shooter. We have serious limitations on DOF control in the video world – stills are much easier. Unlike stills, you are very limited on shutter speed selection. At 30fps, a 90 degree shutter will give you a 1/60 sec shutter speed. To adjust exposure, you change gain/iso, aperture and use ND filters. The sunny 16 rule tells us our ISO 35 (i.e. Phase One IQ2) says we will be around f/8 with no ND filters. As the light goes down, it only gets worse.

        It is extremely difficult to pull focus (a second person does this – not the camera operator) on Super35 sensors (about the size of APS-C), and even harder on full-frame 35. I guess it would make sense for the IMAX shooter.

        • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

          The IQ250 has a base ISO of 100, not 35. But I know what you mean when you say there are restrictions unlike with stills.

  • Ken Elliott

    Get ready for a flood of new MF cameras from several players.

    The interesting part about this sensor is the ability to provide a live feed. Yeah, Hassy and Phase One will take advantage of this, but it is far more important than that. The medium format e-camera (AKA “mirrorless”) is soon to arrive.

    Take the Sony A7. Remove the sensor and mount. Add a medium format sensor and a suitable mount. Suddenly you have a medium format camera that uses the exact same components you are already using.

    Since Sony, Olympus, Samsung, Fujifilm, Nikon, Leica and others already make cameras with electronic viewfinders, they already have the bulk of the design work done. Since Pentax is already in the MF market, this would be a huge cost savings for them. The Pentax 645 would lose a lot of expensive unique parts, and pick up features common to the rest of the Pentax line.

    I wonder if this is what Nikon has been waiting for. After all, a larger sensor camera would trigger the purchase of new lenses. Nikon is really dependent on camera sales, unlike the others (more diversified). MF would seem like a smart place for them to go.

  • Dpablo unfiltered

    I guess we are entering a new phase. As of yesterday I was worried that they might get phased out. I hope the new Hasselblad is not this camera rebadged…

  • sperdynamite

    Still waiting for full frame 645 back, 25mp, usable up to 3200 or 6400, with a decent screen for focus check, around $10,000 bucks USD and available in multiple mounts. (of course my dream come true would be a 6×6 sensor).

    Lots of people used medium format outside of the studio. I wanna shoot at ISO 400 or 800, with a Hasselblad V camera, and have it be more or less like shoot with film. Exactly like how shooting with the D700 was more or less like using an F100, finally.

    The highest paid wedding photographers I know, Jose Villa, Canlas, John Dolan, shoot with medium format film because of the look, not the resolution. That’s what MFD should go after (or at least dedicate some resources to). 80mp is great and all but jesus the MP wars are dead.

    Oh yeah and the $50,000 dollar camera thing, fuck that. Leave that shit to the luxury brands like Leica. Lots of fools and their money soon to be parted and all that. Photographers need tools that bring in something more than status.

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