Sigma 24mm f/1.4 Art lens coming in October

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A new Sigma 24mm f/1.4 Art lens is rumored to be released in October 2014. The new lens will most likely be announced at Photokina in September. The price of the 24mm f/1.4 is expected to be higher than the current 50mm ($949) and 35mm ($899) Art versions. Still no information on a possible 135mm f/1.8 Art model that was rumored a while back.

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  • frod

    I wish they would make something in the ‘gaps’ in the Nikon range. A pancake, a modern 135mm, and ultra wide prime.

    • Global

      I don’t know why every lens company overlaps so tightly. It must be to “justify production” by use of a competitor’s sales data. But what Sigma is doing is wonderful and can stand on its own — its hard to say something is an “Art” lens when it just copies other lenses. “Art” should mean “unique” and “new” and “inspiring” — not just a slightly sharper version of exactly the same. Sigma knows how to innovate on the tele-end, and they recently showed an interesting f/1.8 Cropped lens. But they should consider some real “ART” lenses on the wide-end. There can be some overlap, but I would have liked to see these:

      WIDE ART LENSES
      ———————–
      17mm f/2.8 ART
      21mm f/2 ART
      28mm f/1.4 ART

      PANCAKE ART LENSES
      ———————————–
      20mm f/2.8 ART Pancake
      30mm f/2.8 ART Pancake
      40mm f/2 ART Pancake

      TELE-ART OS LENSES
      —————————–
      135mm f/1.8 ART OS
      200mm f/2 ART Macro OS
      400-600mm f/4 or f/5.6 ART Zoom OS as light as possible.

      The good thing going on for Sigma is they know that Nikon, for example, is creating a “high price” and a “low price” product (f/1.4 lenses and f/1.8 lenses). By tucking Sigma prices neatly in between, and keep quality near or above the high end price, the Sigma becomes the default selection. Therefore, it does not benefit Sigma to make f/1.8 primes, because they would have to be cheaper than Nikon’s f1.4s. But if Sigma makes f/1.4 primes, then the consumer almost has to choose the middle product (its a common strategy for manufacturers to produce 3 products in a line, in hopes to push consumers to the middle one, which represents the best value usually).

      This could be ruined when Sigma makes too low end of a product, or when Sigma makes too pricey of a product. In case of the 50/1.4, Sigma might be following the same pattern, where the Zeiss & 58mm Nikon represents the high end and the Nikon 50/1.4G represents the low end (not the 50/1.8). Therefore, you can’t really suggest Sigma to make slower lenses, under this strategy — UNLESS they have some other appealing aspect (such as being very, very light weight or pocketable, such as PANCAKES).

      • Global

        Is it possible to make a 90mm f/4 ART Pancake? If so, I’d like to see that one as well. A nice set of 20mm, 40mm and 90mm ART pancake lenses would be amazing.

        • sdds

          You should really check out Pentax DA limited line, they have exactly that for APS-C (15mm F4, 21mm F3.2, 40mm F2.8, 70mm F2.4).

          • jvossphoto

            I would empty my pockets if they were FF lenses and there is a FF LXd to slap them on.

          • sdss

            I think people had a good luck using DA40 on full frame film. Not sure about other ones.

          • Global

            Good tip!

        • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

          For SLRs? Making super high quality plain 90/4 is too easy but a pancake is difficult and will give lower IQ because you need extra glass to keep it small. Basically it’ll be a telephoto design. Combine that with people wanting to focus close with such a lens and they’ll be reinventing the wheel by making the tamron 90 or the sony 85 2.8.

          There are nice pancakes in the 40mm and 20mm region already out there for slrs. Of course, having more to choose from isn’t bad.

        • Dave

          Alternative: 90mm 3.5 apo Voigtlander & 20/40 pancakes but MF

      • blp

        would definitely get the 17mm lens. 24mm isnt really enough for landscape photography to be honest.

        • InternetWisdomIsCrap

          I regularly shoot “landscapes” with short teles… Which websites have told you you need wide angles?

          • Global

            Either works — we’re talking about when the subject matter is something like a Building or exceptionally large trees or mountains and you have you have back to a limit or there would be obstruction in your way (for example, in a city or in a very hilly area, where the shot you want is from the bottom, not from the top).

            In many, many cases of landscape, a wide angle can substitute for a tele, but a tele can’t substitute for a wide angle (unless you use photo stitching, which is a definite option with a steady point of shooting).

            I think most landscapes do look better through a tele, but you also get more atmospheric haze depending how far back you are going. Whereas wide angle subjects tend to be in a clear foreground.

            Both are excellent tools. More relevant to the conversation is that we DONT have many good wide angles — but we have tons and tons of options for tele. So an excellent, lower priced wide angle would be great!

        • Global

          I agree — on a Human subject level, I don’t like 24mm for pictures of me in landscapes (too much distortion — 28mm is much, much better, an ideal, I think, actually, on Full frame).

          But, on a Cityscape or landscape level, I love wide angle (city buildings, etc) and rarely go wider than 17mm, but tend to stay around there.

          For more expansive and artistic use, a 14mm f/4 might be interesting though for other landscapes, if it could be small enough. I can’t deal with the 14mm f/2.8.

      • Spy Black

        What’s with this pancake business? Who cares about a flat lens, just make it an awesome lens. I’d rather see a 400mm f4 or 500m f/5.6 than a zoom.

  • http://CamCrunch.com CamCrunch

    Can’t wait! I’m probably going to pick up the 50mm, and this 24mm will compliment it nicely!

  • http://www.ronaldzimmerman.nl Serpiente

    Sigma is very productive with top products for reasonable prices.. Good job! 24mm is a nice FOV. :)

    • sdss

      What if… their prices are what they should be and Canon/Nikon are just ripping everybody off?

      Let’s wait for Samyang to release their autofocus lenses. Those are very good optically and also very affordable.

  • fiatlux

    I guess a 85mm 1.4 update would make sense as well, at least from a branding/look and feel point of view (the current model may be good enough IQ wise)

    • Ms.KrystalMeth

      Yeah…because Otus 85mm 1.4 is coming in October also. With a affordable price of $3999.

  • Kris

    I wish they made a nice, sharp, 85mm f1.2 with nice bokeh. Something that beats the Canon 85 1.2 II.

    I know they have a relatively recent 85 1.4, but that lens is not quite as good as their 35 1.4 and 50 1.4 offering.

    • Ms.KrystalMeth

      Oh my…Nikon’s $499 85mm 1.8 beats that Canon any day. But it is nice to have dreams. I say…IF you can’t be a tree..be a bush.

      • Kris

        Yeah, he 85 1.8G Nikkor is a good lens. It is definitely a lot better than Canon’s aging 85 1.8. And it is sharper than the Canon 85 1.2 II. It is also a lot newer. The issue with it is that: (1) it is not f1.2, (2) its bokeh is not quit as creamy as the 85 1.2 II’s. I suppose that is why people are willing to pay 4-5x as much for the Canon. Is it worth 4-5x as much? Well, everything is worth as much as people are willing to pay for it.

        Enjoy your 85 1.8G. If I was on Nikon, I’d own it too. My buddy bought it for $399 on sale last year on my recommendation. He loves it too.

  • Jack

    Any idea if they ll be making it for FE mounts?

    • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

      Highly doubt it. If they make it specifically for mirrorless, they’ll have to sell it around or lower than the offerings by Fuji and mFT regulars to make money outside of Sony FE.

      • sinhtruong

        I don’t believe that is true at all. Why does it have to be less than Fuji or mFT? FE lenses retail for a hefty price tag considering their speed. So much so that FF e-mount adapters are selling like hotcakes. Also, lots of users adapting lenses are using glass that is very very expensive… and they loose AF or have crappy AF. As an A7r user, I would be the first to place an order for nearly all their Art Primes if it were available for Sony FE because I’ll be able to retain AF (and decent AF), and it’ll be faster than anything Sony/Zeiss currently offers without an adapter.

        I hope they do… I think the Art line would do very well for Sony FE cams. Eg. the 50 1.4 would eat up all of the Zeiss 55mm sales. The CEO was quoted saying that it’s a possibility, but nothing more than that. At the very least, they are considering it.

        • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

          The problem, as I said before, is because of what’s available in the other mounts.

          Fuji has their very nice 23/1.4 priced at $899. Yes the Sigma is FF and even if it’s better than the Fuji, people aren’t going to pay $949+ for a Sigma lens that’s made for a system (FF) that Fuji doesn’t have in its immediate horizon. The Sigma would be bigger too.

          mFT has plenty of fast lenses even around f/0.95 made for their platform. They’re not going to again pay over $949 for a lens that’s a stop slower and a lot bigger than what they already have.

          So Sigma will make this for DSLRs. At most they might make one for FE with a “built-in adapter” like what Samyang does but will include AF as Sigma already has AF mirrorless lenses. Aside from not being a true mirrorless design, such a lens would be very bulky… I don’t think I have ever put my 24 1.4L II on my a7r… ymmv.

          • Clint

            The Fuji 23mm is an awesome lens…I don’t regret a penny of what I spent on it. From my perspective there is no way I would buy a Sigma for more money when the Fuji is pretty much as good as it gets and also native to my system.

          • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

            That’s what I think too.

          • mikeswitz

            absolutely

        • MdB

          The Sigma lenses aren’t designed for mirrorless, they won’t have ‘decent focus’ at all! Try one on an A7R with LA-EA3 and see how decent it is, or a 6D in live view mode. Sorry mate, ain’t going to happen, they would have to completely redesign the lens from scratch, isn’t just a matter of building in an adapter as many people seem to think it is.

          If you want the Sigma Art series SLR lenses, use the LA-EA4, that’s what it’s for.

  • Nacho

    Sigma add Wether resitance pleaseee!

  • Ian

    I wish they would make lenses capable of equally amazing image quality, but slower like 1.8 or even 2.8 to make them more affordable, smaller, and lighter.

    • MdB

      They make the fantastic and cheap 19/30/60mm f2.8 Arts for mirrorless, at sub $200 they are fantastic and a bargain.

      • Ian

        From what I’ve read, those lenses are no match for the latest full frame Art lenses.

        I’m talking about lenses which are every bit as good as those lenses in terms of sharpness, distortion, contrast, color, etc. The only difference being that it only opens up to 2.8 instead of 1.4. Something that would suit a landscape photographer perfectly.

        • Iamthetoph

          Good luck finding anything in that description for less than 800

    • Clint

      No one is ever happy….if Sigma made this an f2.8 lens people would be crying that it wasn’t faster. It’s not an accident that this lens is an f1.4…that is by design…and I for one am happy about it.
      If you want a quality 24mm f2.8 than buy the new IS version of the lens from Canon….

  • ash84

    nice…hope they are more price competitive than nikons…

    • reddit kid

      How can they not be. Nikon are over priced like Canon, and profoto, and pocketwizard. etc

  • Tyler Evert

    DX or FX?

    • sinhtruong

      FX, but it will work on DX, just cropped. So 24mm will be 36mm.

  • http://genotypewritings.blogspot.com/ genotypewriter

    21 1.4 is the new 24 1.4… but I’m still glad I sold my 24 1.4L II for a good price just a few days ago lol

    Admin: Any news on anything this fast and wide on FF mirrorless… other than the 21 Summilux?

  • AM I Am

    Another fArt from Sigma.
    * facepalm *

    • Yo Utroll

      Another troll in photorumors *facepalm*

      • reddit kid

        Another trolled kiddie on comments * facepalm *

        • duh

          Another *facepalm*

          • guest

            Shouldn’t all this *facepalm* nonsense be kept over on reddit?

          • guest

            Another

          • guest

            =8^)

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  • kurogoma

    If this rumored A|24 use 82mm filter size, maybe it will have nice sharpness and bokeh.

  • Fred Flintstone

    I just hope they can keep up with production, I’ve been waiting for 2 months for a back-ordered 105mm macro ffs

  • Womble

    Waiting as fast as I can for a 135mm Art. Not a fan of anything wider than 50mm (and yes, I’m going to get the 50mm Art.

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