Samsung NX500 now discontinued, massive NX1 price drop

More bad news for the Samsung NX line:

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The Samsung NX500 mirrorless camera is now listed as discontinued at B&H and is no longer even listed at Adorama.

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There is also a new $450/$500 price drop on the Samsung NX1 top-of-the-line model:

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  • Hubertus Bigend

    I liked the NX1 a lot when it came out, but who would pay a four-figure price for a camera that’s discontinued, too, and with all accessories and lenses discontinued as well?

    • nwcs

      That one guy on PR who insists that the NX1 is several years ahead of any other camera out there. He might buy 3.

      • longzoom

        Have no idea how many years this thing ahead of, but in my even limited experience the camera is exceptional. Simply like this. Especially with last pro level lenses.

        • nwcs

          It’s a great camera but not really ahead. Just has some features others don’t and lacks features others have.

          • BP2012

            I’m curious which features NX1 lacks (except IBIS) and others have? Yes you can Include newest mirrorless cameras which are not yet hit the stores 18 months after NX1 announcement. I’m not a Samsung fan nor Samsung user but I had opportunity to use NX1 last June for two weeks both for photos and videos and I didn’t missed any feature except IBIS for using with legacy glass mounted with adapters.

          • nwcs

            A few that come to mind. People will value them differently. The NX1 has a few weaknesses in the features it does have as well (low light AF reliability).

            High resolution LCD screen (>1K)
            Tracking AF (yes, NX1 has it but DSLRs like D500/D5 do it far better)
            GPS
            Optical VF (it is a feature even if by design NX1 doesn’t have it)

            None of that it to say it’s not a great camera or has a lot of features. Just that it’s not 2-5 years ahead of everyone. It just ticks more checkboxes than most cameras do.

          • longzoom

            What I like and what is more important for me, personally – exceptional detailing and good DR, is not as wide as my D800’s one, but among the best inside AP-C family. Very good AF with new pro-level lenses. I’ve no use for most of the futures you named above, but for some it could be important, why not. But its machine-gun speed was definitely for me!

          • nwcs

            Personally, for me, I’d love if Nikon put a GPS and astrotracing functionality in a D750 update. It’s more useful to me than high frame rates. The NX1 is a good camera. Sorry to see it abandoned.

          • longzoom

            Me too, sorry, indeed…

          • Zos Xavius

            I doubt they will do that because Nikon seems to have no interest in stabilized sensors. I doubt you would want to switch readily, but it sounds like a Pentax K-1 would be right up your alley. It definitely has those features and more.

          • nwcs

            Yep it is a cool feature of theirs and I liked the idea from when I first heard about it 2 years ago. But I don’t want to switch to Pentax and I know Nikon probably won’t do it. Still, you never know. At least built in GPS should be standard now.

          • BP2012

            I compared NX1 to other mirrrorless cameras.
            Amoled 1k screen looks much better than any other screen with higher resolution.
            Yes some top Canikon DSLRs still have better tracking AF but there is no mirrorless camera with better AF (don’t know about new Sony A6300).
            GPS is a good thing but it is marginal option and could be replaced with external accessories or standalone GPS device or even with a smartphone.
            Variangle screen and astrotracing are Pentax exotics, obviously good things but for marginal groups of users. Fully articulated screen is much more usable solution beside that it is more fragile.
            Optical VF on MILC camera is like Electronic VF on a DSLR. Chicken tits.
            Don’t know about 5 years from now but NX1 is still at top of mirrorless cameras 18 months after its announcement.

          • nwcs

            Like I said, some people value those features differently. There’s quite a few people who would disagree with your GPS assessment. In any case, I think the NX1 has a lot to offer and isn’t necessarily better for everyone better than the other offerings. That doesn’t make the NX1 a poor choice except for Samsung’s apparent decision regarding its future.

      • Marco? He will stop by probably today for this post.

  • Tsais

    Samsung blind sided by Sony’s full frame cams…

    Hope someone buys up Samsung’s camera division and makes something out of it.

    • SH*T666

      This is not the end of Samsung cameras. Rest assured.

      • Jeffry De Meyer

        Not holding my breath, every month the camera section is scrapped from more national samsung sites.

      • Zos Xavius

        What customers would they possibly even have left at this point? Nobody would ever be foolish enough to invest in Samsung again after abandoning two camera systems.

        • SH*T666

          Canon R, FD and FL mounts?

          • Jeffry De Meyer

            EOS is older than Samsung has been an electronics company

          • SH*T666

            Leica is older than Canon and still maintains its M mount.

          • Jeffry De Meyer

            Yes as does nikon, and Canon made the right decision in dumping fd.
            That nice and wide mouth allows them to get good performing fast lenses, they should even be able to bump up the sensor size a decent bit and keep using the same mount whilst allowing people to use FF lenses while they build up a bigger frame lens set.

          • SH*T666

            I understand your point. If Canon drops a mount, it is the ‘right decision’, but if Samsung does the same, it is a treason towards customers. Brilliant.

          • Jeffry De Meyer

            I know, amazing right, time scale and existing market and research have nothing to do with it.
            Just canon does something and it is good and Samsung does something and they are the Islamic state of photography.

    • nwcs

      They use the cameras in other areas of their business. They won’t sell that division. There is a lot of use for cameras outside of general/professional photography.

      • Sakaphoto Graphics

        Besides, South Korea needs a camera company, even if it is an electronics company.

      • Zos Xavius

        Android phones

    • I think Samsung wants to keep it just in case they decid to go back to it in the future.

      • Spy Black

        I wonder if they may re-introduce a camera system with a different format, more in line with other mirrorless cameras.

  • Ievgen Nedrygailov

    Very sad news. Less and less hope that rumors about the death of NX-mount are just rumors. I guess it is time for Samsung to say at least something.

    • jojo

      Although there hasn’t been a full announcement, it’s surely
      gone beyond rumors by now?

      • Ievgen Nedrygailov

        Who needs an official announcement if cameras and lens are not existing on the market anymore? What does it change? I think everything is obvious.

      • I think it has been beyond rumors for few months now.

    • My understanding is that Samsung just froze their camera unit. They did not kill it and there is a possibility that they may resurrect it one day (and no, Nikon did not buy Samsung’s camera unit – this all a hoax).

      • TinusVerdino

        They could have kept it alive easily. The NX1 was good, the NX500 too. Just a light refresh and you are set for years. They didn’t.

      • Ievgen Nedrygailov

        What is the difference between freezing and killing in this case? Anyway, Samsung cannot kill the camera division as they need it for manufacturing smartphones. But this does not give any hope for the NX camera fans in my opinion.

        • freezing means that they may start making cameras again one day

          • Ievgen Nedrygailov

            Or may not start … I mean nobody will wait

          • correct

  • johnny

    Make it $500 if Samsung really wants to dump it.

  • Vertex

    zero support… no thanks.

  • Ted

    I believe Samsung can’t produce as many microchip as they want to, so they freeze the camera division for now. It s not wise to build a new factory at this moment.

    • I think this is exactly what is happening.

    • Jeffry De Meyer

      Interest rates are even lower than during the economic collapse in 2008. Now is the time to invest in big projects especially since there is a world wide glut in construction materials.

      this is the time to start building production facilities.

      Also of note is that sensors are made on older lithography nodes since it doesn’t really make sense to make them on 14nm or what ever was the node of the day is.
      They get to give their old but extremely expensive older investments a second lease on life with sensor production.

      Yes that doesn’t include their DRIMe, but that was made on an older node too and the NX1 wasn’t using it at its full potential.
      According to an interview on imaging resource the chip was capable of doing 240FPS @ 28megapixel

      http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2014/09/27/photokina-interview-samsung-nx1-redefine-pro-performance-quantum-leap-tech

      Compare that to the canon demo of the 120megapixel sensor they weren’t even able to read out fluidly a couple of months ago.

      So no I don’t believe it is a production issue, Samsung just quit the camera business, if they were still working on something they would not have let this rumor live and introduced a new flash system or a couple of lenses that needed updating or just released some updates to the nx 500 firmware to include some of the crap photo filters they invented for their phones.

      Samsung’s strategy is commit to the things they do here it looks like they committed to quitting

    • Ievgen Nedrygailov

      This statement does not make any sense. Even if they cannot produce as many microchip as they need why not to release a firmware update? This would be a clear sign that they continue their camera business.

  • NigelC

    I asked a Korean friend if Samsung was discontinuing their camera division. He doesn’t know much about photography, but he told me that Samsung is currently in a mess as the family is quibbling over who will take over control of the company. The chairman of the company is rumored to be dead.

    This seems like the most likely the case based on what we are seeing in terms of communications to the public. They really don’t know what they want to do with the “side” businesses such as the camera division.

    Cameras for Samsung are akin to cars for Mitsubishi. They don’t generate much profit but the founder likes them. Actually, cameras for Samsung could become profitable if managed properly.

    Tony Northrup, whom some might know and does good technical reviews on gear actually said that the NX1 has the been AF system. And he is a wildlife photographer! And he actually recommended it against the Canon 7DmkII which he said was the current best for sports and wildlife.

    • TinusVerdino

      Well the Chairman has been dead for quite while now since his hobby division stopped communicating a year ago.

      • NigelC

        Yup. That’s kind of what I heard.

    • nwcs

      Tony is OK but he is not always very accurate. The NX1 doesn’t have the best AF system. For a mirrorless, probably, but all around it doesn’t outclass DSLRs overall — especially for low light or erratic movement.

    • Ievgen Nedrygailov

      I would recommend to your korean friend to watch less korean TV drama.

      • nwcs

        They do have some dramatic drama shows!

        • Ievgen Nedrygailov

          Yes, actually lots of them. And quite many about the death of a head of a big company with subsequent disputes about the inheritance. So someone could easily mix up the TV drama and reality. 🙂

          • NigelC

            Apparently lots of people watch Korean drama, including the guy who entered this into the Wikipedia entry… (I tried following the link, but the page was one of those composite types that changes content).

            Taken from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kun-hee

            “On May 11, 2014, Lee was hospitalized for a heart attack. On May 16, 2014, the AsiaN claimed that Lee had died, citing a whistleblower inside the firm. It deleted the article seven months later, saying it was unable to obtain further information to substantiate the claim.[5]”

  • animalsbybarry

    Not only has Samsung left the camera market, but the Galaxy S7 has an advanced dual pixel Sony sensor in it.

  • MonkeySpanner

    That seems like more than a $500 price drop.

    • MonkeySpanner

      Never mind – doesn’t come with the good lens.

    • sickheadache

      You are so right…and Please Stop Chocking your Chicken.

  • Alex Alexander

    I heard n Barcelona that Samsung is completely focused on smartphone cameras as the next big thing.
    They supposed to have moved people from their camera division to the mobile division.

  • sickheadache

    There is a Price is Right Game called…That’s Too Much!

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