Is this the new Mitakon Speedmaster 85mm f/1.2 full frame lens?

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Update: the lens is now officially announced.

I received those pictures of a new Speedmaster 85mm f/1.2 full frame lens that could be what the Mitakon teaser on Facebook was about. Here are few additional details:

  • Manual focus lens
  • 9 elements in 6 groups, 2 ED elements
  • Minimum focusing distance: 1m
  • 11 blades aperture
  • Available in Canon, Nikon and Sony mounts (Pentax version may be released later)
  • Sample images:

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Mitakon lenses are now available at B&H.

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  • neonspark

    Nice lens. However not sure if the f1.2 even matters these days except for marketing brag points. The quality of all the current f1.2 lenses @ 1.2 is so terrible, specially CA-wise, that that aperture is basically a stretch of the word “usable”. It would take a Zeiss otus to create a proper 1.2 lens that works well at 1.2 to the point where one can consider shooting at this aperture most of the time….so lower your standards, or blow your wallet.

    • Louis-Félix Grondin

      A 85 or 50 1.2 Otus would be sooooo big…

      • outkasted

        As big as my third leg

        • Louis-Félix Grondin

          cool story bro

        • TheInconvenientRuth

          ..because it quickly and easily collapses into a smaller size?

    • rafakoy

      That is true, however, one of the reasons to get a f/1.2 lens is that (usually but not always) when you stop it down one or two stops, the image quality is outstanding, generally better than another lens in the same angle with smaller aperture. For instance, I own the manual Nikon 50mm f/1.2 AIs lens. If I stop it down to f/1.8, it has a better CA than any other 1.8 50mm Nikon lens I have, manual or AF. So if you can make a 1.2 lens at a good price, it is still worth to give it a try.
      We’ll have to wait until seeing real samples to judge it.

      • fjfjjj

        My experience and the conventional wisdom is the opposite, not specifically for CA, but for image quality in general. Typical 50/1.4 lenses are well known for being inferior to their 50/1.8 counterparts in almost every way, and are only preferable if you shoot mostly at f/1.4.

        • rafakoy

          I don’t think you understood my point.

          • the_sardonic_iconic

            I think he does. In general you’re right…but for example, the Nikon 50mm f/1.4G is worse at f/1.8 than the 50mm f/1.8G. I went through two copies of the 1.4G before selling it for the 1.8G. I don’t miss the 2/3rd stops at all.

      • Skvora Gin-san Limitd

        No 1.8 stop on 50/1.2 FYI. CA isn’t such a huge pickle with digital and if you don’t post, you’re just snapping not graphing. You get a 1.2 to have the ability to shoot the cream only 1.2 or larger can do, else it’s frankly a waste of money.

    • Will

      IDK, is this terrible? @ F1.2

      • Will

        I doubt it would be a ‘stretch’ to consider this ‘usable’ by most people’s books

        • Spy Black

          It depends on the lighting conditions. Soft lighting like in your examples are easy on large aperture lenses. Shoot in high contrast lighting and it all goes to shìt. So there is definitely a place for such lenses, you simply need to know when and how to use them.

          • Will

            Here’s one with high contrast lighting

            You are right that in that you need to know how to use them, in any condition

          • Spy Black

            That’s hardly high contrast lighting. I’m talking about shooting wide open in something like bright noon direct sun. The spherical chromatic aberration will skyrocket in those situations.

            These lenses still have their place however.

          • Corbin Dallas

            And who the hell would ever be shooting wide open in those conditions anyway? You’re searching for reasons to argue without using any logic.

            IMO if you’re regularly shooting portraiture at high noon on a sunny day you fail as a photographer from the get-go anyway.

          • Spy Black

            Who said anything about portraiture?

          • Corbin Dallas

            Shooting pretty much anything in the situation you described isn’t going to yield good results. And this type of lens’ main purpose is portraiture. Sure you could use it for many other things, but most people seek out an f1.2 lens for the sole purpose of portraiture, which I’m sure this lens will be great for if it’s like their 50mm f0.95.

    • Will

      Just saying, I shoot this lens exclusively at F1.2

      • Mistral75

        Just asking, which is “this lens” you seem to be using with a Canon EOS 5D Mark III? Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L or Mitakon Zhongyi Speedmaster 85mm f/1.2 ‘the Dream’?

        • Nulla Assun

          I assume its the Canon since the Mitakon isn’t available for sale yet

        • Will

          Canon

      • François Nuq

        Please remove the purple fringes on the dress… :-/

      • Nulla Assun

        amazing pic Will, I don’t see any purple fringes

        This was shot at 1.2 yes? Image quality seems very good, it appears many people need to own this lens before they make a comment on ‘usability’

        • Gabriel

          Yeah but good luck waiting for people to actually act logically instead of putting down a product they havent even tested. lol

      • Spy Black

        Pretty noisy shot, what ISO is that?

      • Jason Pratt

        Plenty of naysayers, I just wish everybody were brave enough to post their pics as they are with nitpicking

        I would be perfectly happy with the image quality presented here if they were my own photos, well done Will and I think real world examples like these prove real world usability a hell of a lot better than any charts there are

    • Gabriel

      Well you need to check the quality of this lens at 1.2 then you will realize your mistake 😉

  • Mistral75
  • Chris Knight

    Neat! I’ll buy…Interesting that the aperture is up front. Always makes me smile when lens designers get creative!

    • Mistral75

      The aperture ring is somewhere in the middle (rather than upfront), exactly where the aperture itself is (between the front groups and the rear groups) simply because it’s the simplest arrangement when the lens is not coupled (the body has no action whatsoever on the aperture).

  • Neopulse

    For the Sony A-Mount or E-Mount (or both)?

    • Mistral75

      A-mount according to their Facebook page:

      Canon, Nikon, Sony A, Pentax SLR users will absolutely love it!

      But you can always add an adapter: you won’t loose anything since the lens is fully manual without autofocus or aperture control.

      • Neopulse

        Had a feeling. Glad A-Mount is getting some love. But have to admit that the 50mm is great as it is on the E-Mount.

    • Mistral75

      Actually, both according to a comment by Mitakon – ZY Optics on their Facebook page:

      We will ship Canon / Nikon / Sony FE first. Sony A / Pentax K will be available in late 2015.

  • Will

    Apparently this will be $2000+, which is more than a 85mm F1.2 from Canon

    I would stick to adapting 😛

    • FonsecaFoto

      wrong lol

    • Mistral75

      Apparently this will be $2000+

      Er, $799 actually.

  • Chew Swee Kee

    From its website, the Pentax and Sony A Mount have been removed

    • Mistral75

      As already reported above, a comment by Mitakon – ZY Optics on their Facebook page:

      https://www.facebook.com/zyoptics

      We will ship Canon / Nikon / Sony FE first. Sony A / Pentax K will be available in late 2015.

      • Chew Swee Kee

        yes, I know, but earlier in the day, this was what appeared

        • Mistral75

          The current page is still the same as the one you posted earlier, with the dropdown list only proposing Canon EF, Nikon F and Sony FE as (currently) available options and the text above the dropdown stating that “Canon EF / Nikon F / Sony FE mounts are available. Sony A / Pentax K mounts will be announced later this year“, which explains why the latter are not available for preorder now.

          • Chew Swee Kee

            sorry didn’t realise earlier post had gone through.

  • Russell Ferris

    I’m very lucky to have access to the Nikkor 85mm f/1.8 afs, it smashes everything in it’s price range. I’d much rather see a hyperprime 135mm.

    • Mistral75

      Hyperprime 135mm already exists: it’s called Zeiss Apo-Sonnar T* 135mm f/2 ZF.2 :-).

      • Russell Ferris

        135 f2 is not a hyper prime, 300 f2 is.

        • Mistral75

          If you want. But, the framing being the same, 135mm f/2 (f/1.9 actually) and 85mm f/1.2 have the same depth of field.

          Besides, no need to spend two grands in a Zeiss Apo-Sonnar: Samyang 135mm f/2 ED UMC costs $549.

          • Russell Ferris

            I will definitely be purchasing the samyang.

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