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Some new Samsung NX10 rumors surfaced on dpreview:
- Samsung NX10 will have lens image stabilization (as mentioned before here)
- The NX10 is lighter and has faster AF than the Olympus E-P1 (AF speed similar to the Panasonic GH1)
- EVF is VGA level
- K-mount adapter will be released at the same time with the Samsung NX10, probably in January, 2010
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Admin, please correct the date. I meant Jan, 2010 not Jan 10, 2010.
Looks everything but small/light…
Another clueless me-too design.
Being a dSLR user, I want the following things in a pocket/small camera: medium sized point and shoot size or thereabouts; FF or DX quality imaging; no shutter lag; interchangeable lenses; fast prime lens; fast focusing; accurate viewfinder.
If I wanted the SLR prism “hump” on a compact camera, I’d use a small dSLR, where the hump actually serves a purpose by housing a prism! That’s why the Panny GF-1 has been selling well, it doesn’t pretend to be a downsized SLR, with an unnecessary prism hump. That’s why the Canon G10/G11/S90 and Panny LX-3 are popular as well, because form follows function.
Oh, and the colors–I really, REALLY want to shoot with a “HEY, LOOK AT ME, I NEED ATTENTION” RED colored camera. It might as well have a neon sign stuck on it, at least it will help light the subject.
Samsung hasn’t doing anything unique (other than to use an APS-C sensor) to warrant my money. I’m saving my money for a GF1 instead (in black, with the fast 20mm lens).
Yes, it is quite incredible that so many new designs did not get the point. Ricoh droped the ball, Panasonic got a smaller design only in its third m43 installation, Samsung looks as big as a small dslr camera. Olympus EP1-2 is ok but apparently not perfect yet. Haloooo, someone with a SMALL camera but APS or FF IQ out there? With a set of excellent primes or small zooms? Easy to use and to carry? Too difficult?
sorry but the EVF hump is not useless or unnecessary imitation of DSLRs, EVF’s specially good quality ones which have large screen and high magnification are bound to be large, simply have a look at the EP2’s external EVF and remeber that it has lower magnification power than the GH1’s EVF. Even compact “P&S” which have pathetic EVF’s, do have a small hump even in models that are not intended to look like an SLR. Forget about built-in EVF, if you want a form factor like the EP1/2 or GF1. If you don’t agree with this, then simply give us just one example where the camera had a good EVF and in the same time a humpless compact form factor.
The point I was making, and reiterating, is that the “hump” does not need to be a hump on top–it can be placed anywhere on the body , because it does NOT need to be in the optical line of sight (and maybe even off–how about wireless bluetooth-like viewfinder in the future!). What I am suggesting to any and all camera makers (yeah, right, they are reading this) is that the EVF can be placed anywhere on the body, not on top in the middle, emulating an SLR, but anywhere else. But I am sure their market research tells them this is the way to go, so they all follow like sheep.
>>”Even compact “P&S” which have pathetic EVF’s, do have a small hump even in models that are not intended to look like an SLR.” Again, the EVF can be relocated, but simply a me-too brain dead design. What does your statement prove?
>>”.. give us just one example where the camera had a good EVF and in the same time a humpless compact form factor.”
First, you prove my point exactly. Obviously, if there was such a camera with EVF and no hump, we would not be having this line of thought. Second, I believe the Panasonic LC1/Leica Digilux 2, Olympus e-330 had EVF, but of poor quality (circa 2005).
I thought exactly about the same thing, EVF unlike SLR OVF can be away from the lens, why do the designers (almost) always put it exactly over the lens where there is the narrowest space for it, and hence a hump becomes inevitable.
Maybe manufacturers don’t want to put the EVF on the left side because that wouldn’t suit left-eyed people (about 15% of people are left-handed/left-eyed). Also ergonomiclly, people got used to a viewfinder (be it optical or electronic) in the centre, remeber how the Sony R1 was crticised for its weird LCD placement. The idea of detachable EVF or LCD is excellent, Pro-View (www.proviewsite.com) already has a wireless live view system, but the live view is created by an accessory sensor attached externally to the OVF (used for DSLR’s especially ones that dont have any live view), the same principles could be used to make a wireless EVF or external LCD, just directly off the main sensor instead of the limitations of an accessory sensor that can only “sees” what the optical viewfinder see (no WB preview for example).
Still what is the point? It isn’t any smaller than the E-450 or E-620 which are real DSLRs.
Here in the UK no high street shop sells Samsung or Pentax DSLRs so they might as throw the towel instead of insisting on a non standard dead format.
Samsung and Pentax produce good cameras. The fact is that they produce cameras that do not have any unique feature, compared to the competition. And their cameras are not less expensive. Considering that the competition produces excellent + cameras, plus they have better systems/assistance, plus they often have some unique product that maked them derisable, I can’t see why one would invest into a Pentax system. This new micro system by Samsung is very interesting. But why so big? As you said, better a dslr Olympus, then…
To each it’s own. I, for example, don’t know of any other camera manufacturer making Limiteds…
For certain, there are reasons to pick any system. Probably, this will also apply to the NX system and btw, the NX10 doesn’t look so big to me. Let’s see what they can do without Pentax.
The size of the NX has been discussed to death on pentaxforums.com:
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/pentax-news-rumors/80947-nx10-no-so-big-how-you-think.html
They used the hot-shoe for reference to compare with other cameras, including the E-610, GF-1, etc.
Also, remember the 1st micro-4/3rds camera by panasonic was also not too small…only later later generations were smaller