New Sony A9 mirrorless camera announced


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Sony announced a new a9 mirrorless camera - chek out the live blog here or the live stream here. Here are the main specs/features:

  • world’s first full-frame stacked CMOS sensor, 24.2 MP resolution
  • blackout-free continuous shooting at up to 20fps for up to 241 RAW/ 362 JPEG images
  • silent, vibration-free shooting at speeds up to 1/32,000 sec
  • 693 point focal plane phase detection AF points with 60 AF/AE tracking calculations per second
  • extensive professional features including Ethernet port for file transfer
  • dual SD card slots
  • BIONZ X Image Processor
  • blackout-Free Quad VGA 3.7m-Dot OLED EVF
  • 3.0" 1.44m-dot tilting touchscreen LCD
  • internal UHD 4K/30p video recording
  • Mag. alloy body
  • extended battery life
  • 5-axis in-body image stabilization with a 5.0 step shutter speed advantage
  • price: $4,499 / £4,500 (ouch!)
  • pre-orders to open on Friday (more pre-order options available here)
  • shipping starts in June, 2017

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Sony also announced a new FE 100-400mm f/4.5–5.6 GM OSS lens:

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  • Zainb

    Looks like SAR was right after all with A9 rumors. Exactly as rumored by SAR a few months ago.

    • yes, after they rumored that camera for over 2 years with all possible specs combinations… anyone can do that

      • Zainb

        We are talking about rumors from last 2 months and spec match.

        • and I am talking about rumors from the past 2 years about the same camera and no specs match, even the latest reported specs were not correct

          • sickheadache

            A9 18mp 8fps
            A9 20mp 15fps
            A9 24mp 18 fps
            A9 36mp 20fps
            A9 42mp 10fps
            A9 54mp 12fps
            A9 58mp 13fps
            A9 64mp 15fps
            A9 72mp 20fps

            A9R 72mp 10fps

            DID i cover it?

          • I think there were more 🙂

          • sickheadache

            Oh yeah..every week..there was a new click bait..This is IT! moment.

      • sickheadache

        That is where i got the idea for Nikon..that Their next D810 replacement specs of the much rumored A9 ..from anywhere from 42mp to 72mp..Since Sony does supply or use to supply sony sensors to Nikon….Yes sir there is a Nikon D810 replacement.

      • Max

        I went to go check now but the Sony alpha rumors website takes so long to load I left.

    • FountainHead

      Even a blind squirrel finds an occasional nut.

      • exactly, Sony no longer leaks info, even the Japanese sites were clueless

        • Zainb

          Funny then how SAR was exactly right about specs including high fps and sensor for last two months.

          • I don’t know which SAR you are reading…

          • sickheadache

            U wanna crunch those numbers again.

  • Looks theoretically as good as the D5/1DX but a few grand less expensive. It will be interesting to see if the AF can actually match the Canikon flagship models.

    I don’t need a large sports camera though so I don’t care too much, but hopefully some of this stuff trickles down to the next version of the A7R.

  • jmb2560

    The mirrorless camera I was hoping Nikon would have by now… Sad but kudos to Sony.

    • Jeffry De Meyer

      Sony just managed to make a nice camera on the mirrorless platform that on paper so far looks really nice and the people that usually say nice things about sony seem to be loving it.

      But why would an other company bother making something that wouldn’t have been on the level of their normal products for a very critical pro public?

    • James Michael

      I have been wanting a mirrorless version of the D750 with high end specs since it came out. Eventually, I am going to have to jump ship.

  • sickheadache

    as with that other site that has every month predicted this camera…for two years now…I can actually Predict …Nikon and Canon will produce a low end and high end mp mirrorless camera…Soon! lol.

    But..this Sony Camera is actually interesting…Hummm Makes u think.

    • Yes finally, right?

    • Eric

      Nikon and Canon are great companies with great resources, but they are living in an incremental world that is rapidly giving way to a new and exciting world of photographic possibilities. Case in point: silent shooting. If the environment calls for complete silence because of the ensuing ceremony or sport event, guess what, Nikon and Canon shooters will be left staring at events while those A9 shooters will be going like crazy firing away at 20 fps on a 5-axis stabilized camera body. Not good, so let’s see what the big companies do now when the 3rd stringer suddenly appears to be running faster.

      • HD10

        This may be just the camera that should be mandated for photographers covering the White House. The noise of multiple dSLRs shooting at full speed for several seconds create such a racket as to make it hard to hear what is being said in such press conference. This camera would also likely do well in covering events requiring high frame rate with robust buffer but where the loud clatter of dSLRs would be a distraction, e.g., golf tournaments.

        Outside of these specialized events, the form factor and the limited long lenses available in the native E-mount will likely limit the adoption of the A9 for sports photography.

      • Azmodan

        One reason IMO for Canikon’s slow rate of change. The age of their senior management is appalling, Canon’s are well into their 70’s and 80’s. Sony’s head of camera is like 45 or something. We have fossils running the big two. I’ll bet if they cleaned out house and brought is a swag of younger people they’d shake things up very quickly. They still make great cameras, but they are not leveraging the best technology.

        Still one thing the Sony hasn’t convinced me of just yet is ergonomics. I already hear reports there’s almost no room to fit your fingers between grip and 100-400 especially for bigger guys. What about if they release some superteles? It’s these little things that are more important. Why is AF-ON button so far from AEL button, why are they so small.

  • Chris T

    that sensor sounds amazing. Hopefully Nikon will get to use it. At some point.

  • Jarret O’Shea

    Wow, was not expecting a $4500 price tag (not that I’m really in the market anyway.)

    To me, probably the most interesting thing is the battery life, which is finally approaching something that would make me think about going away from a DSLR. At 480 shots it’s still less than half what I can get with my DSLR, but then with all the other features it’s getting closer to balancing out.

    • sickheadache

      Two version of the Battery Life…Yes..480 shots with life view? and 600 plus with just using LCD. I think i got that right..right?

      • That means it is more like 300 in real life 🙂

        • sickheadache

          I like a Battery Grip..so I will be using 2 batteries…but I guess i can get two more…just in case. lol But I will be 100% honest…I never ever worry about Nikon D810 and Battery Grip..I can shoot all day..beginning with the sunrise and beyond…in Hawaii…and get back to my place..and see that I have 30% battery life left on the camera system.

          • Disqus Discuss

            You can shoot a placid 5 fps, sure, but this is a whole new realm of speed. Also, how is the 4k of your 810?

          • sickheadache

            I don’t shoot video. Just Landscapes and Animals and Pretty Ripped Up Boys.

          • Disqus Discuss

            Well, this isn’t the camera for you then, unless you care about the eye autofocus for when you shoot shallow DOF, and also the EVF so you don’t lose shots when chimping.

          • sickheadache

            such a helpful chap. where would I be?

          • Disqus Discuss

            Vexed. There seems to be no camera good enough for you though, and so I say lost as well.

          • sickheadache

            Nikon D810 is perfect until Nikon Releases D820/850 with 46mp or whatever the case may be. Got it now. I will test drive in June..this new Sony Camera with Batis Lenses. I will report to you..what my findings are..OK!

          • Disqus Discuss

            We will await your verdict with breathless anticipation. Know that Sony has recently stated that they won’t be selling their top sensors to Nikon any more, so, your wait might be longer than you anticipate. BTW, there are far more worthy photography writers out there, who I respect, so please don’t bother me with your findings. I’ll spend my time reading and listening to real professionals who have access to the camera in question. Cheers, and have a nice life.

          • David Ross

            Don’t forget the chimping issue…

          • Zos Xavius

            Just don’t chimp. Easy.

          • I also picked up on Sony not offering its best sensors to Nikon. Nikon made a big mistake when it let Sony buy Toshiba’s sensor business a few years ago.

          • silmasan

            “Let”? Did they have any choice though? ^_^

          • Nikon had a Toshiba sensor in their D7100. In fact, Nikon has some in-house sensor design technology. With a little foresight, I believe Nikon could have bought Toshiba’s sensor manufacturing division as could have anyone else if they were interested. BTW, what happened to Samsung’s sensor division which designed and manufactured the state-of-the-art 28 MP BSI sensor. Hmm.

          • sickheadache

            Yes we all know you love Ken Flopwell or Jason Lanier..or maybe you are that big fat greek guy who can actually pull a Ken Flopwell..you know..review something you see on the net.

          • why should the d810 be any less perfect when the next comes out, it will be the same camera.

          • abortabort

            You will get the same with this. Guaranteed.

        • Zainb

          If you shoot burst mode, it’s more like 3000

        • animalsbybarry

          The battery is 2.5x the capacity of the old one

        • abortabort

          No.

      • abortabort

        5DIV is what, 250 shots in live view, with a bigger battery?

    • Aldo

      Sony is (on paper) giving you a much better camera than both nikon and canon combined for over 1500k less. You want to know why? Sony wants you to take a leap of faith on this camera with the promise that they addressed all the many problems and limitations that photographers had in respect to battery life and usability when using mirrorless in a professional environment.

      • Eric Calabros

        What limitations?

        • Aldo

          Having to swap batteries every so often (even if you buy 50 of them) limits what you can use camera for and how you use it in a professional high demanding environment. You may argue that ‘back in the day’ we always did this with film. But we are not back in the day and the standards have changed quite a bit.

          • Disqus Discuss

            Buy a batter grip, and with the new standard (EVF vs. OVF) realize you won’t be dropping your camera to check exposure, etc., while chimping.

        • HotDuckZ

          Overheating, I mean if you need 3,780 shot as Nikon D5 you need Z 8-12 batteries. A cost of 8-12 batteries and how to manage it is not funny.

          • abortabort

            In action shooting DPR got through 2830 frames from 83% of one battery. Pretty sure you won’t need 8-12 batteries.

          • HotDuckZ

            Wow, I want to try my self after I knew that.

  • nwcs

    I guess it’s real. But definitely priced like a flagship. This may be why Sony did their press release about “surpassing” Nikon in the US. To signal something bigger coming very soon. I’m not a Sony guy but I wish them luck.

    • raziel28

      It is groundbreaking in many fields, especially for MILC. In my view, price is OK
      Regards

  • Aldo

    Thank you Peter for linking me a more appropriate place to spill all my drool over this new amazing sony camera.

  • Sebastien

    I’m not a Sony fan, but I must admit that this camera seems to be impressive. 1/32000 without rolling shutter effect is nice.

    • I have to agree, but keep in mind that Sony products aways look better on paper. Have aways been the case. Let’s wait and see. They definitely addressed some of the big disadvantages of their previous models.

      • Most things are compromises. It is likely that the things that are vastly improved create problems elsewhere. As an example, if the electronic shutter really worked as well as the mechanical shutter then they would not need the mechanical shutter at all. They included it for a reason. If what you want to do requires the mechanical shutter you are then using a 8 fps camera that costs $4,300.

      • Azmodan

        Yep 3 generations to get it right. A7 was half-baked, A7II, 3/4 baked and this is about right. Each model is much dearer than previous even though this is not A& replacement, we can expect A7RIII to be at least 20% dearer than the A7RII

  • Eric

    Forget the price. Nikon and Canon fans will no doubt try to blast the A9, but the message is unmistakable: there is a new era in camera technology setting in and the Canons and Nikons of the world are not yet part of it. They better hurry in catching up with this new era or face the Kodak curse. They must have run out of Kaopectate today at the Nikon/Canon convenience stores.

    • I have to agree with you now, but yesterday that was not the case. You simply could not compare the previous gen Sony cameras with the high-end DSLR models. We shall see now how the a9 performs in real life. Specs looks very good of course.

      • manattan

        Peter, why did you not post this over at NikonRumors as well as “other industry news”? Given the recent Sony overtaking Nikon FF article, this would also generate a ton of interest and comments.

      • Spy Black

        I think Nikon needs to face the fact that they need to buy or build a fab plant.

      • and AFTER SALES FOR high end users, will THAT be on a par with Nik/Can

    • James Michael

      I shoot with Nikons, with a Pentax as my side piece. As far as I am concerned, Sony keeps raising the bar. Nikon and Canon better step up their game.

      • Yes, this doesn’t really mean that Sony is making money after spending so much on r&d, but this is a different discussion.

        • Chaitanya

          Sony has the worst after sales service in India, even movie studios don’t like touching Sony video cameras with a pole. For consumer end of things sonys after sales service is non existent at best and you better be ready for hair implants if your Sony camera/lens has to be sent for service.

    • outkasted

      Gold!

  • sickheadache

    I am interested…but not buying…I will test drive this camera in June. With Batis Lenses. I am curious, but I want this camera in High MP. Then I would be excited. lol

    • raziel28

      that would be a9r…

      • paige4o4

        If the A9r is also $4500 I think the Fuji GFX would be more tempting… Sony glass is just as expensive as MF these days.

        • sickheadache

          I am glad I only Rent..these toys. I could not even keep up, if there was no rental places.

          • Allan

            Eventually, some of the new technology drifts down to DX cameras that are getting better every day. Maybe rent one, and you might be pleasantly surprised. (I think I know your feelings about DX cameras.)

  • sickheadache

    The Press was invited to go to a live event and use the A9 …So we can hear real soon…how the A9 Sounds…shooting 20 fps.

  • Duncan Young

    Great Camera ..But how do you warrant the price tag!!

    • paige4o4

      By considering you’re getting D5/1Dx performance for $1.5k less.

  • Eric Calabros

    Imagine this sensor inside D750

    • Eddy Kamera

      No big difference, at least in DSLR mode. LV on the other hand… it’s gonna be totally awesome.

    • paige4o4

      Imagine the video capabilities. 4k recording with full sensor readout.

      • Azmodan

        The A7RII does full sensor readout for 4K as one option or super35 crop mode as another in 4K.

  • Les

    Is this a response to the Leica SL, a year and a half late?
    Given the similarity in price, I’m not sure this camera has the edge. You know the Leica will be worth more in a year when this one’s been superseded by a bug-fix model.

    • Licheus

      The poor SL is still waiting for its lenses. Which are due the NEXT Photokina.

      • silmasan

        Any serious photographer looking for the best image quality would be baffled as to why would someone get the SL over the Fuji GFX system now.

        • Les

          They are completely different cameras. Do you want medium format (slower, bigger, fewer lens options), or a fast sturdy 35mm camera?

          The only thing they have in common is the price.

          • silmasan

            That’s why I specifically limited the scope of my comment to “image quality”. But since you suggested “fast, sturdy 35mm camera”.. then well, I think you know what my next response will be. 🙂

            Yep, (assuming you meant MILC) we have Sony A7 series… and now this A9. Faster, about as compact, and much more lens options, native or adapted.

            Now I’m interested to see how Leica SL compares. Certainly they must have better lenses.

      • Les

        The SL has no lenses, if you disregard the fact that you can use nearly every Leica lens ever made with it, plus almost every other 35mm SLR lens. Other than that, there are no lenses…
        I am always amazed at the excuses some people come-up with. It’s like Imelda Marcos claiming she doesn’t have any shoes.

    • raziel28

      “I’m not sure this camera has the edge.”
      This is probably the most advanced MILC camera ever. I would say that the price is right. Leica camera with this specs would cost 10.000€ easily.
      Regards

      • I only know one thing – it’s cheaper than the Nikon D5 and that’s not good for Nikon.

        • raziel28

          D5 price is quite high, even 1DX Mark II is $500 less.
          But it also has the best AF in the world, the best battery in the world, probably the best high ISO, build quality is top-notch, illuminated buttons, excellent metering system, superb jpeg, and so forth…
          Regards

        • Max Lim

          Yeah, but with the A9 take the same kind of beating in day-in/day out use as the D5?

          How well can the A9 take a drop or handle beating some hipster protester on the head during street riots? How well is the A9 going to take 50c degree heat and -10c arctic cold?

          Maybe the specs look great to fanboy peeper, but what about real world use aside from sitting on a bench somewhere at a football match?

    • Spy Black

      When you’re doing the kind of work this camera is designed for, you’re not going to give a crap about resale value. The Leica doesn’t hold a candle to this camera.

      • Les

        Sure, whatever. meanwhile, some of us enjoy the fact that you can use a camera professionally for years and get most of your money back.
        Leicas aren’t expensive, they are essentially free. Some of the lenses increase in value as you abuse them for years. It makes sense if you are running a business.

        In my experience, Sony cameras plummet in value, and their lenses aren’t even worth re-selling.

        • Spy Black

          Nobody who buys gear like this Sony cares. They want gear that performs. They have work to do.

          • Les

            SB,

            I know you don’t think anybody can ever do work with a Leica. Give it up. They are good working cameras, no matter your prejudices. Just because you use some other brand doesn’t mean that your choice is the only valid one.
            You are starting to sound like a child who thinks that whatever brand of mid-size sedan daddy drives must be the best, and everything else must be terrible.

            Sony makes good gear, especially in their Pro video line. That doesn’t mean that Canon, Hasselblad, Leica, Nikon, Olympus are bad.

          • Spy Black

            You’re not getting my point. I couldn’t care less about this camera. I’m not a spray & pray shooter. This camera is made for journalist, wildlife, and sports shooters. Your precious Leica is not. People who buy gear like this will beat the shit out of it, and frankly, compared to a D5, D500, or 1Dx, it remains to be seen if it will take the same kind of beating.

            Who buys a Leica and beats the shit out of it? Right. That would not bode too well for your resale value, now would it?

          • Les

            I am getting your point, and I answered the “beat the s* out of it” thing elsewhere. Brassing often increases the money you can get for a Leica.

            As for the durability FUD, the SL has been out for a year and a half. You can know that any issue would have been overblown by now. It’s been faultless, like it or not.

        • silmasan

          I would see the point if we’re talking about fine luxury cars that are well-maintained, even kept pristine. They’re real investments. But worn-off, abused photographic equipment… well maybe I just haven’t heard about that often enough. I mean, even if it’s a Leica, wouldn’t you have to keep it in good condition to keep its value?

          • Les

            Granted, there’s a tiny (but conspicuous) part of the market that wants mint Leica special editions.
            There’s a much bigger market that appreciates Leicas that show signs of wear. A good amount of natural brassing does not hurt the value of a used Leica.

  • HKer

    I shoot sports for a living. Sounds promising this camera, however, with all mirrorless the battery is a big issue. Often a days’ sports shoot could be 3000-4000 shots and when you are shooting 3-4 day tournaments, those mount up. So given say 500 shots per battery that is 6 batteries in one day, then you need six chargers to charge them overnight ready for the next day, unless you get up throughout the night to switch the batteries over. Given 500 shots you would be paranoid checking whether the battery is about to run out of juice. To put a new battery during the game could mean you missed the critical game point. I assume this camera is weather-sealed? However , I applaud Sony for pushing the envelope.

    • paige4o4

      The battery life is significantly longer than 500 when shooting in bursts.

      • HotDuckZ

        That camera can do 500 images in a minute. We have 60 minutes per hours.

        • Tore Hansen

          This camera does not use a mechanical shutter or mirror when taking 500 images in a minute.

          • HotDuckZ

            Mechanical shutter with mirror use sensor 500 short times but electronic… a long the way.

    • Disqus Discuss

      Buy a battery grip. Also, with an EVF, you won’t miss shots or waste battery life while chimping.

      • Miss a shot just because of EVF, I have never mised a shot without EVF duh………..

    • Piooof

      Big flashguns have huge battery packs. There’s no reason why you couldn’t get some aftermarket 100Ah monster to keep this camera alive long enough. As long as you stay on a bench shooting sports rather than crawling in the mud to make war photographs, this will be ok. And I bet there are more sports photographers than war reporters.

      • Hahaha then that 100% defeats the small size of the camera

        • Piooof

          This kind of mirrorless is not about size, it’s about speed, video, and smart viewfinder. Who cares about body size when you lug a 400 mm f/2.8 anyway?

    • Originaru

      Look at the accessories, they have a battery charger that charges multiple batteries at the same time, by the way the batteries apparently charge in 2:30 hours…

    • I photographed a wedding on Saturday using a pair of Olympus OM-D E-M1s. I took 1000 shots with one of the bodies and only had to change the battery around the 800-shot mark. This will have a much larger battery and another 3 years of power-management advances incorporated into its design. Yes, the sensor is larger and the readout faster, but in fast-paced sports-shooting scenarios with frequent use of high burst-rates I would be unsurprised to find 1000 shots per charge is possible.

      • abortabort

        Try 2000.

        I’ve shot 1500 shots on a Ricoh GR in quick succession with its TINY battery and it was still half full.

        • Spy Black

          The GR is not a comparable camera. It doesn’t need to power large lenses for instance. It’s essentially a glorified point & shoot.

          • abortabort

            Oh nonsense. The biggest energy suck is the sensor / live view. That’s why the 5D IV drops to less than 300 shots in live view, not because it suddenly has to push the lenses harder.

            Do Sony’s have to work their lenses harder than Canon? A lot of pointless BS here, I go 1500 shots easy out of a camera rated for ~300 because I was burst shooting, that’s the point.

    • abortabort

      Burst shooting is significantly higher on almost all cameras, but more so on mirrorless. Mirrorless use more power just being on than DSLRs do. CIPA figures are next to useless point of compare for that type of shooting, but they are still the defacto standard.

      Sony have also created a new charging station that charges 4 batteries at once and can also power the camera off those 4 batteries if you need it to.

    • 100% I use the same battery in BOTH my D4s’s and D810s, one battery lats all weekend,

    • abortabort

      Testing the camera today, DPR shot 2830 frames and still had 17% from the one battery.

    • Camaman

      Not so much of a concern if you shoot bursts in a duration of a game.
      I remember getting 1000-1200 shots out of a small battery from Olympus E-M10 in a span of 4 hours…
      And tgat is rated, what? 300-350 shots…

  • HD10

    The battery on the A9, the AF-joystick, the AF-on button, the tilting touchscreen are the features/enhancements needed to make the A7 Series III cameras better.

    Used as a sports camera however, I find the A9 form factor wanting. This, plus the lack of native mount long lenses, make me think that it will not see widespread adoption among sports photographers other than for some limited specialized use that would require its ability to shoot silently at high frame rate with robust buffer. Hopefully, the sensor very fast throughput means that the golf club would look straight despite using the electronic shutter.

  • br0xibear

    £4500 for the body, that’s expensive…
    Don’t know about prices elsewhere, but in the UK you can get the A7R Mark II with 24-70mm f2.8 G Master Lens for £4400.
    Does the A9 series replace the A7 cameras ?

    • HD10

      Sony would like the A9 to replace the A7 but that is unlikely given the limited price elasticity among camera buyers.

      • Azmodan

        No, this is not a replacement at all. This has nothing to do with the A7 line which be upgraded this year. Even the a6500 is not a replacement for the a6300, it’s a new higher end model, a6300 sells alongside it. It’s like 1DX II vs 5D4, totally different markets.

        • HD10

          Ugh … it seems I need to translate what I said. My comment was to the effect that Sony would like the A9 to replace the A7 because it would bring in more revenue and higher profit …but this will not happen due to the substantial price discrepancy between the A9, A7 and of course, the A6xxx series. I am an early adopter of the Sony NEX series and am familiar and a user of several different models from its start to the current models. Ditto with Nikon, Canon, Fuji, Olympus and Panasonic. I do not however own any Canon cameras anymore.

          • Azmodan

            No Sony aren’t that dumb, even they wouldn’t have any expectation that the A9 would sell in high volumes, the real money is made at the entry and mid level, they would much rather sell a million $1000-1500 cameras than 10000, $4500 cameras.

    • raziel28

      I do not think so, this is above the Alpha 7.
      It is the same as it used to be with Minolta cameras, 7 series are mid range and 9 series cameras are more advanced models…
      Regards

  • EcoR1

    No mirror, no mechanical shutter. Blackout free EVF. Totally groudbreaking for any sport photographer. People can shoot 20 FPS all day long and not to worry about wearing shutter.

    • Agree, this is a big move forward for the Sony a line, they even have a new tele lens but they still need more.

      • EcoR1

        Yep, they need to build up their lens catalog and produce cheaper cameras with this new sensor technology. One step at time. And apparently there is a mechanical shutter after all left in A9. There was some conflicting reports about that. But the point is that mechanical shutter is not needed any more, because the read-out speed of the sensor is so high.

    • sickheadache

      Something is moving…I can hear something clicking. I bet there is a limit count on the mirror whatnot.

    • HotDuckZ

      All day long? Sound weird, what a mirrorless can do that?

      • EcoR1

        No actually it doesn’t sound. It’s silent.

        • HotDuckZ

          Silent? run out of batteries?

  • MB
    • decentrist

      perfect image of a typical Sony owner

      • raziel28

        I am a Sony owner and I respect Nikon as much as Sony. 🙂
        Not all fanboys are like that 🙂
        Regards

  • Jeffry De Meyer

    I do appreciate the ethernet port, but why not just use USB-c
    it is faster and can with the right dongle be used for just about anything

    Anyway I hope this means there will be a bunch of people dumping used gear on the market

    • No USB 3 is a bit of a head scratcher, but if they treat the A9 like the A7 and do an A9R/A9S at higher prices I can see that as something that they would reserve for the R model.

  • JoeJohnBear

    Is it 20 fps with electronic shutter, and 5 fps with mechanical? Doesn’t that rule it out for sports with lateral movements if you want to use the mechanical shutter to eliminate rolling shutter?

    • HotDuckZ

      I watch YouTube and may Sony solved the rolling shutter problem, my question is my V1 has better image quality if I use mechanic shutter. Is Sony a9 do better?

      • manattan

        It does not look like there is any penalty for using the e-shutter as the stacked architecture lets the sensor quickly offload all the data into holding memory. In many ways it is like a global shutter, which is why I think Sony is pricing it so high. It’s basically the world’s first global shutter full frame stills camera.

      • abortabort

        When testing the first stacked sensor cameras for this (RX10 II and RX100 IV) there was absolutely no difference in quality. Usually the difference comes down to the fact that in electronic shutter it has to speed up the readout in order to achieve anything remotely useful, the RS sensors remove this limitation.

  • FUJI MF OR a9? 24 vs 50mp full frame vs medium lense prices, same. zeiss wise. slow vs fast afnon 4k or 4k?.

    • Sebastien

      Just try to find what you shoot first… It could help…

      You can’t compare those cameras.

    • Ande Notos

      I don’t think you could find two more different cameras to compare.

  • Duncan Dimanche

    that’s a high price for a well made and placed recording button ! haha but seriously well done Sony for that new button ! It took you a while but you did it !

    • Forget the button, they now have dual memory card slots- real progress!

      • Spy Black

        One of them is supposedly only UHS-1, WTF is that about on a camera like this?

        • Yes, this is strange. Why? To save money?

          • Spy Black

            Unless there are backwards compatibility issues, it seems a brain fart on an otherwise killer machine.

  • Walter Strong

    At 20fps this is almost pulling a still from video, not taking a photo.

    • Zainb

      Yes, but it can AF at 20 fps at 1Dx speed, something most video cameras cannot.

      • Walter Strong

        Your claim regarding auto focus parity with a D5 or 1Dx remains to be confirmed, but it’s beside the point. The point is pulling an image from a 20 fps sequence approaches a tipping point where the image no longer fits into the category of sports photography, at least as traditionally conceived. For example, some photo comps specifically exclude video stills. At 20 fps, this is almost video.

        • Zainb

          It’s shooting 20 fps 14-bit raw with AF using still lenses. Even $50K Red can’t do that as that camera can’t AF,

          All digital sensors (video or still) work the same way. Video camera usually have lower resolution and can’t shoot raw or can’t AF (arleast cinema cameras can’t AF).

          This cameras shoot 24 MP 14 bit raws with native still AF lenses.

        • Zainb

          “some photo comps specifically exclude video stills.”

          Yeah, because still from videos are crappy as videos are highly compressed (far more than jpegs) and have lower quality, low DR, and low resolution.

          This camera is doing 20 fps 14-bit raw on FF sensor so the image quality blows the crap of most DSLRs

      • Who T H cares aboyut 20 FPS, I shoot at almost every race track in the UK, BH, SS, Thruxton this weekend, and many more, the only people you hear with machine guns are the camera club members 🙂 🙂 🙂 not pros

        Yes there are occasions when you may need continuous but do NOT think all pro shooters always have their cameras on 16fps, I shoot single shot 98% of the time

        • Ratatoskr

          Us wildlife photographers care.
          We shoot 98% continuous shooting.

          I’m not sure, though, if I want as much as 20fps. But if I can set it to different speeds, why not.
          I just don’t want to go through 60 photos each time a take an action shot of an animal.

  • Jonathan

    Grrr. Stupid piece of… Now I have another camera to buy… I can’t afford this hobby! If only I could make the excuse of bad lens selection, but nooo, third parties have fixed that. Now I have no excuse to not buy Sony. Ugh!

  • Originaru

    I’m feeling some Nikon fans really sad with this launch…
    They had a hope that Nikon would launch some camera like this before Sony, to take the lead again.
    This camera on spec side is unbeateable, on the real world, probably not, BUT, Sony needs true RAW 14 bit, and we need to be sure that this camera does not overheat.
    I said this before Sony raws are all baked, even the uncompressed one.
    Sony Lenses perform worse than they appear, sony bake profiles on their cameras and now lenses to make some corrections always, other corrections are only dial up or down, never off.

    • silmasan

      Seems to be more and more the case today and into the future, to rely on computational solutions to overcome physical limitations (or just to minimize expenses and maximizing profit). Of course that would make the price of their lenses even more unjustified…

      • Originaru

        Yes, that’s the only problem i have with them, the lens prices do not correspond to any real spectacular advancement in the optical formula, materials or any physical extraordinary technology above all others, to me Canon and Leica(the real one) still have the best lenses, maybe Zeiss(the real one) its up there too.
        Sony rebaked the minolta lenses in most cases with a new coating and maybe a better process…

  • Piooof

    It seems that s Sony is close to turning its technological advance in sensors into a decisive advance in cameras. Wish Canikon good luck, they may need it.

  • EnPassant

    Looking into my crystal ball I see how the members of the Nikon board are as shaken by the new Sony A9 release (which they stayed up late to watch) as if they just experienced an earthquake:

    – We must change the plans for D6 and use the same EVF and make it mirrorless with an electronic shutter just like Sony A9 one voice said.
    – But AF-tracking with the sensor is not as fast with our F-mount lenses as it is with a dedicated AF module. And creating a new mount would demand new lenses wich would take many years to develop said a second voice.
    – Can’t we just use an SLT mirror like Sony do in the A-mount cameras? a third voice asked.
    – With half a stop loss of light? Our clients would never accept that and we would be behind not only Sony and Canon but even our older cameras said a third a fourth voice replied.
    – There must be some solution the first voice said.
    – I know! The youngest member of the board, as usual standing a bit behind the others, raised his hand and said:
    – We could make it both mirrorless and SLT!!
    – Is that possible? a voice from the others questioned.
    – Yes it should be possible said an ex engineer. And continued:
    – We need to make a redesign of the Sony SLT construction and mirrorbox, allowing the mirror to slide back and up in one movement, by the camera, not by hand and preferably only with a lens or cap mounted on the camera.
    – Good! said the president of the board.
    – Start working on that solution tomorrow! Today I mean! Smiling looking at the clock on the wall.
    – We cannot allow to be behind in technology. This has highest priority!

    Suddenly I felt dizzy as if I had just woken up. Was that just a dream or did it actually happen? My crystal ball gave no answer as it was clear as crystal.
    Did Nikon just decide to make the D6 both SLT and mirrorless? Or were they all sleeping during the Sony presentation ignoring Sony and what they do as their main competitor always have been Canon?
    Will they just continue with the small iterations that worked such well in the past and believe a D6 with a ordinary mirror and optical finder will still be good enough in 2020?
    By then Sony propably added a couple of pro tele lenses. In my mind I see the pro photographers in a future olympic games. All the long lenses are white in Canon and Sony shades. Black Nikon lenses are no longer seen.

    Sweating and shaking I suddenly woke up for real this time. Reading the Sony A9 presentation I got tired and took a nap that ended in a nightmare, still wondering which of my visions will become the future.

    • decentrist

      Don’t worry, Sony will have a new model this summer

      • That’s for sure 🙂

        • abortabort

          Yep and Nikon will still be peddling the D810 😉

          • I am not denying Nikon’s problems, but Sony has issues too – you must be foolish to think otherwise.

          • abortabort

            Did I say that I didn’t? Sony have plenty of problems.

          • Oh, ok – because when I mentioned it, you came back striking at Nikon…

          • abortabort

            Well a snide remark gets one no?

  • silmasan

    Alright, Sony’s getting even more aggressive. I don’t think their recent (direct/indirect) jabs at Nikon were coincidental. They’re in the better position to push things forward technologically, and when it comes to market position, why not take advantage from their competitors’ woes? (Yes, Nikon is also their biggest customer…) They’re going to play less nice once they get to a stronger position. And let’s not forget that, looking forward, they still have Canon as the #1 to beat.

    Btw, don’t you think this would be their best model in the lineup to confirm their commitment to XQD with? (wait… why has nobody else mentioned XQD yet? Come on…)

  • Mr Majestyk

    Ok, looks like a beast and they have addressed many of the issues with the A7 series, but since it’s so-called sports pro camera where is the work horse 400 f/2.8 that so many sports pro live by. When they have native E mount 300/400 f/2.8, 500/600 f/4 and not priced at ludicrous levels like their current 500 f/4 then it might be tempting.

    But I do see this as a wake up-call for Canon and NIkon, there is too much great tech in this camera to ignore and for the first time we are really seeing benefit of mirrorless with this stacked sensor. EVF looks sensational, AF coverage amazing, fps impressive. Going forward surely Canon and Nikon must be asking serious questions about their next gen pro-cameras and what form they will take. If they can make a mirrorless that via adapter uses current EF/FX lenses without speed penalty to AF then the transition will be much easier that waiting for native mount mirrorless glass and less expensive of course.

    Of course let’s see how it handles the blazing fast action compared to D5 and 1DXII

  • Henry

    They know how to time their press releases. Set things up with that “Sony overtakes Nikon” talk and then slam with this news. It does look like a nice camera, but ouch that’s about $6000 Canadian. The next big Nikon release better not have that hefty a price tag.

    • Yes, but still cheaper than the D5.

  • animalsbybarry

    So Sony finally announced the A9
    When will Nikon anounce the D810 ???

    • TwoStrayCats

      The D8-what?

    • The D810 is already announced 🙂

      • animalsbybarry

        My stupid-smart phone keeps changing what I type

        • Maybe the phone knows something we don’t 🙂

  • TwoStrayCats

    The high-res version is going to be around $5K then. Oww!

    • Sawyerspadre

      Or more?

  • Stuart Crowther

    Ergonomics still suck.

    • I agree, they cannot fix that with all of those buttons on the body.

    • abortabort

      Do they? What in particular didn’t you like about it when you used it?

      • Stuart Crowther

        Yeah because the body design and layout is so radically different from the A7rii which I have used.

        • abortabort

          And what about those that ‘sucked’ in particular? Sorry it’s just this blanket term that gets thrown around.

  • I said 4 years ago, it’s only a matter of time till mirrorless will surpass DSLR, including EVF vs OVF. It’s funny now, seeing all previous DSLR fanboys saying Canikon is doomed if they don’t release a mirrorless. Sheep.

    • Well, you have to agree that until today mirrorless tech was behind, the a9 changed that.

      • abortabort

        That depends on what your requirements are / were. Most people who have been happily using mirrorless have needed this kind of performance in order to enjoy the other benefits of the products. For those people mirrorless was already ahead.

        • Exactly. I never felt like my A7RII was behind my D800 when I owned it. I even kept both for a few months and shot them side by side before selling the D800 to make sure.

          For as many headlines as this stuff gets the high end sports/action cameras are pretty niche.

  • Esstee

    RIP Nikon, rip…

    • Not yet, but soon if they don’t act.

  • purenupe1

    WOW….I hope the rental stores will stock these so I can try it out in real life. I’m really considering what glass I can sell in order to finance this purchase. The specs look great…I hope it forces my Nikon to issue a mirror-less camera that fully uses the F mount glass ( don’t disable any features like the FT-1)

  • ZZ

    Maybe Sony’s decision to play hardball and forego short-term profits by telling the world that it’s not selling it’s best sensors to its competitors, i.e. Nikon (not immediately anyway) and buying up (maybe even overpaying) Toshiba’s Sensor division to keep it out of Nikon’s hands have bigger foot on the Nikon’s throat effect than first noted … who knows when or if we are going to see SONY’s (but always noted as being “Nikon tweaked/designed” by the fanboys) 46mp BSI sensor in their D810 replacement … and now this with SONY punching hard upmarket where Nikon says they are staying … with robust build, dual card slot, improved battery life with impressive specs professional rig to entice the DSLR shooters, not to mention continuous onslaught of technical improvements and innovations … OK Nikon, time to answer the bell … what you got?? …

  • 20 fps, I shoot motorsports professionally and my D4s’s and D810s are all set to single shot

  • is there a 600mm, 500mm, 80-400mm good f2.8 70-200mm for the camera, it is about LENS availability for professionals NOT just the FPS

    • abortabort

      Second two already exist, first two will likely come (but already exist if you need them now).

  • When I dropped one of my D4s and broke the dial and buttons on the back it was sent to Fixation Monday, back friday at work Saturday, Sony !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I think……… Poor old Pentax 😉

  • nicholai

    Canon and Nikon have a long history of knowing what makes a high end pro camera. It’s going to take a few years before Sony can break that wall,it’s not just making a great camera but the pro service, that creates the loyalty. For less than pro’s its not that easy to ditch your entire lens platform and lose a ton of money.

  • Clive Downham

    The next logical step for Nikon is a full frame mirrorless pro body. As long as it takes my existing F mount lens collection and has 25Mp or more then I will look forward to buying one. I expect an announcement in 2018 (fingers crossed). Just the benefit of silent shooting will make it a worthwhile addition…and maybe a total replacement if it is robust enough.

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