The new Leica TL2 camera: pictures and specifications leaked online



The new Leica TL2 will look very similar to the previous T/TL models. The main upgrade will be the new 24MP APS-C sensor. Here are the rumored specifications:

  • Very similar to the T and TL design
  • No EVF
  • Very fast everything
  • New 24MP sensor
  • No flash
  • Max ISO: 50,000
  • 4K video
  • New customizable interface with more selections and options
  • The edges of the body are now smoother compared to the T and TL: the CNC machining of the camera is slightly modified from the T/TL as the edges are chamfered to reduce the "normal-angle" sharp edging of the previous models (this chamfering stops about half an inch short of the hot-shoe from both sides)
  • The official announcement will be on or around July 10th
  • The Leica TL2 will use the same Visoflex as the M10
  • Price: around 2,000 EUR/USD/GBP

Specifications via LeicaRumors, picture via Nokishita

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  • Non

    I feel that such camera should not be in the Leica line-up. It would fit better in the Panasonic/Leica series. A premium snapshot camera which no matter how capable is from image quality perspective, does not serve basic photographer’s needs as far as UI is concerned. I am afraid it will prove to be a big flop for Leica, which is a pitty because they seem to have invested quite a lot of effort and money.

    • Zos Xavius

      This is the third camera in TL flavor. I doubt they would continue producing them if they didn’t sell. I’ll agree that its somewhat out of place, but is it? Leica has rebadged Panasonic cameras for a long time that are even lower end.

  • TinusVerdino

    $€£ 2000 and no viewfinder optical or electronic

    • CaMeRa QuEsT

      No IBIS nor optical stabilization in any of its native lenses, which are themselves not very well corrected optically either, all at prices 4 to 5 times higher than what Sony, Fuji or Canon are charging for their similarly spec-ed, entry level, non-EVF equiped 24Mp cameras. But then you wouldn’t want to show up in a high society event with any of those, much more capable (no 4K though) but “el cheapo” brands: the bouncers (or butlers or “concierges”) at the entrance just wouldn’t let you in!

      • raziel28

        tl probably has a better build quality.
        but i agree that the price is quite high…
        regards

        • CaMeRa QuEsT

          I wouldn’t call Canon’s M3 (or M2 or M) flimsy cameras, granted they’re made of sheet metal instead of being carved out from a solid ingot of “aluminium”, so you couldn’t drive nails with them like you can with a TL. But what’s the point of overbuilding a camera body that holds technology that will certainly be passé in 10 years’ time? Yes, totally pointless. Ok, it’s a $2K conversation starter piece, but is it enough of an “art” piece to put on a plinth to show in the middle of your living room? Guess not. Like I’ve said before, Oskar Barnack must be rolling in his coffin with the choices and decisions being made by Leica of late.

      • Jeffry De Meyer

        Yeah let’s shoot video on a Leica…
        You get a Leica for the name and the glass to make photos
        The rest is irrelevant for the Leica target audience

        • CaMeRa QuEsT

          Mostly the Leica name, TL lenses can’t hold a candle against Fujinon X lenses, probably not even against Canon EF-M lenses.

          • Per K

            Where is the evidence for your statement about TL lenses? I think you are dead wrong.

          • CaMeRa QuEsT
          • Per K

            I never check PC mag lens tests as my experience is they do not understand the subject. To them everything is an electronic gadget. I lens ids not! An IMAtest will not tell much about about factual image quality output. Just one piece in the puzzel.
            I can agree on the DPR criticism over housing shortcomings though.
            Concerning lens and looking at image quality I have seen it betters the Fuji quality at normal ISO.
            Owned the Fuji X-E1 and 18-55. AF was absolutely worthless and the lens only decent. Beautiful colors though.
            Have not owned the Leica, but seen others results.

          • CaMeRa QuEsT

            The thing about PC Mag lens test is that I find them as being a good basis for comparisons as their results reflect what I see on the lenses I’ve owned, and they do test almost every lens under the sun. I would have quoted you DXOmark or SLRgear but there is basically no one else out there with test numbers on TL lenses.

            The thing with Leica is that it’s a company with very limited resources competing in almost every segment where even Japanese corporations that are tens to hundreds of times bigger in every metric are struggling in, with every single one of them aiming for excellence in their products and willing to spend the R&D money to achieve it. The math simply doesn’t add up, so Leica has no other choice but to compromise in more ways than the Japanese would.

          • Zos Xavius

            PC Magazine uses imatest. Their reviews are fair. Have you ever even bothered to read them?

    • Les

      Tinus,

      That’s twice the price of an iphone…

      Speaking of which, many photographers are OK with not having an electronic viewfinder. It may be a stumbling block for you, but it’s no longer a choice that needs to be justified.

      besides, if you want an EVF camera, you can get one from Leica and from almost every other brand. Not all cameras need to have the same specs and layout, what a dull world that would be.

    • keyan lv

      Let the trolling start.

      • TinusVerdino

        There are no Leica fanboys to troll.

  • Tapper

    More fashion statement than camera. Can’t see a single compelling reason why anyone would choose this over much cheaper, more capable cameras aside from brand and looks.

    • ZMWT

      This camera delivers superior results, even in its 1st version. The combination of optics and camera tuning is excellent and the equipment feels very high quality, very durable. It is a grade above Japanese cameras. Better to say, this kind of an approach is alien to current Japanese camera industry — they simply will not deliver this kind of quality at once.

      • raziel28

        “Better to say, this kind of an approach is alien to current Japanese camera industry”

        Yeah, sure.
        Now compare German and Japanese cameras with the same price.
        Or compare D5 with SL
        Regards

        • ZMWT

          D5 had more than five iterations to come where it is. Leica SL had — ONE. That tells about the seriousness of approach I was writing above. Likewise with Fuji X100; it took Fujifilm 4 iterations to have a somewhat usable camera; so they used money of poor and naive users as a credit money for their development and production, so that somewhere in future they may deliver “something”. Leica simply doesn’t work like that.

          • raziel28

            and the vast majority of single digit canon/nikon cameras are still in use.
            that speaks about their quality and reliability.
            i did not use fuji cameras that much, but they are also good performers.
            at least, japanese camera makers are innovative. they are pushing the limits and their cameras are worthy of 2017.

            on the other hand, leica continues to sell overpriced and outdated cameras. they heavily rely on the marketing and so called “elitist” users.
            if this camera hadn’t had a red dot on the body, nobody would have noticed it, at least for that price.
            tl cameras ergonomically are among the worst in the milc world, and their image quality is average.

            regards

          • ZMWT

            And Leica SL will be used for a long time, even when SL4 comes out.

          • Max

            I find the x100s to be very usable, even natural.

      • CaMeRa QuEsT

        When was the last time mission critical war zone photographers took Leicas with them? Oh, yeah, right before the Nikon F came along. Wonder why they haven’t brought Leicas with them ever since…

        • ZMWT

          It has to do with radical changes in warfare; most conflicts after the WW2 were never officially declared, break many international conventions, and the number of civilian casualties increased exponentially in comparison to the number of soldiers lost. Civilians and reporters are now main casualties of wars, therefore reporters must use different equipment too.

          • CaMeRa QuEsT

            ??? Sorry, I lost you in “It…”. Triple D and all his colleagues ditched their Leicas for Nikons because Nikons were more rugged, didn’t need constant maintenance and upkeep and, gasps, first and foremost, Nikkor lenses were sharper and had better contrast. And all this happened before the advent of the F, after that, Leica almost went bankrupt, then they realized that their only way of survival was to be a kind of optical atelier, a boutique, if you will, for the wealthy photog that didn’t want to be caught dead using plebeian Japanese equipment, and that’s what Leica after Oskar Barnack has become and still is to this date.

          • ZMWT

            Not at all. Post WW2 tech has changed radically, especially when German optical patents were rendered void, and given for free to the Japanese companies, who before the war were servicing German manufacturers. All of a sudden they got immense wealth in hands, and tied themselves with trade agreements with the West and the USA. Remaining German patents ended up in Soviet Union bloc. In addition, nature of warfare changed too.

        • EnPassant

          Leica M was still very relevant in the Vietnam war. In fact it was the standard equipment for AP photographers. Some also carried Nikon cameras at same time, especially for longer focal lengths.
          The most famous photo from the war, The Napalm girl by Nick Ut was taken with a Leica M2.

  • Jeffry De Meyer

    In 2011 Sony launched the first aps-c sensor that was 24 megapixel.

  • sickheadache

    It is like all other Leica’s…Half ass attempt to keep their 10 Leica Fan Boys happy.

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