Announced: RED Hydrogen One smartphone with holographic display

Today RED did not announce the modular camera they patented, but they did introduce a new smartphone (see patent here). Not a regular smartphone - the Hydrogen One is a $1,200 smartphone with a... holographic display (holographic display: "display that utilizes light diffraction to create a virtual three-dimensional image of an object, holographic displays are unique from other forms of 3D imaging in that they do not require the aid of any special glasses or external equipment for a viewer to see the image").

Additional information on the RED Hydrogen One:

  • Android OS based
  • 5.7-inch holographic display
  • Can view 2D, 3D, VR, AR, and MR
  • Multi band support
  • MicroSD slot
  • USB-C support
  • Price: $1,195 (titanium version: $1,595)
  • Shipping date: Q1/2018

The full press release is available here.

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  • D800GUY

    What’s the purpose of this phone again?

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    • animalsbybarry

      It fulfills the need to spend more money than those around you

      • Originaru

        Yeah, you are probably using one of those devices which are unecessary right now, making this unecessary comment…

  • Originaru

    I want a review of this thing!

  • animalsbybarry

    Unfortunately it uses the android charging port

    Thes always malfunction within 2 years so you have to replace the phone

    • Zos Xavius

      I see no reason why USB-C is any less robust than any of the ports before it. If anything it should be more robust.

      • animalsbybarry

        iPhone charging port is much more durable and reliable

        • Zos Xavius

          Because iphones are the poster childs of durability. Please. At any rate I’ll stick to devices I can install software on myself thanks.

          • Piooof

            You can’t install software on an iPhone??
            You believe you can do what you want with an Android system, even elementary stuff like removing useless Google programs? I’ve both, and both systems are gilded jails.

          • Zos Xavius

            Android is a gilded prison? First of all on android you can EASILY go into the options and allow it to install APKs that don’t come from google play store. Furthermore you can typically root an android device fairly easily. No jailbreak required. You can even install custom roms fairly easily. My phone is certainly not stock.

          • Piooof

            Yes, if you’re a geek there’s an escape, as with the iPhone jailbreak. If you’re a layperson you’ll have to stay inside the fence. And with Android, the grass is cheaper but the shepherd is snooping on you.

          • Zos Xavius

            My point was exactly that. You can install any apk on android if you want. No jailbreak required.

          • Max

            Don’t tell them how expensive your nexus is. It might make them lose interest in their apple products.

        • paige4o4

          Says who?

          • Spy Black

            Apple fanboys.

        • Seann

          It’s the exact same port on both of these, both manufactured by Intel, there is no difference.

          • El Aura

            USB-C is the exact same port as Lightning?

        • Max

          Unfortunately there are apple devices connected to the iphone ports you like so much.

    • paige4o4

      That’s funny. The USB-C (excuse my, “android charging”) port on my 2015 retina MacBook is still working like a champ.

      Why don’t you take a look at Linus Tech Tips, who did durability test between it and the micro USB port. You’ll never guess which one lasted longer.

      • silmasan

        Oh the micro USB port is a disaster in the long-term. Too easily broken.. I’ve had my nephews break a couple just by normal everyday wear.

        • I’ve had my HTC m8 since release, maybe 3 years ago. Still no problems won it. I’m using it now to type this message actually.

        • Zos Xavius

          I have had android phones since the original G1. That’s at least 4 or 5 phones. I haven’t had a single USB port fail on any phone. Your nephew needs to quit abusing his phones.

          • silmasan

            They are kids.. Maybe this particular HP tablet has bad ports too. First time it was replaced under warranty, the second time I refused to care (lol) and somebody got it fixed.

            OK I just read it on amazon (Slate 7) and many are having the same known problem too (not charging & port fail).

            Maybe wrong generalization on my part, but if your device’s port doesn’t have a proper lead-in hole, the tiny fragile pin is prone to bending or breaking.

          • Zos Xavius

            The newer phones all have ports that are separate from the board itself to prevent mechanical failure. USB-c should be much more robust in general because you can insert the plug either way and the shape of it allows better guidance. Kids break everything. I’m hardly surprised.

    • silmasan

      “Android charging port?” No such thing. It’s the newer USB-C btw, also found in later Macs as paige4o4 said. I think you may have mistaken it for the older micro-USB, which indeed is easily broken.

    • Aditya Gupta

      Wth…blind isheeps here on photorumours……. Get a life.

  • Jeffry De Meyer

    Over priced and by the time mediocre with a gimmick you stop caring about 10 minutes after getting it.

  • RED Digital Cinema products are purchased by a savvy, highly competent user base that also happens to be fiercely loyal. Many of them just bought multiple copies of this device despite having an only imperfect idea of what it will actually do. This is because of RED Leader Jim Jannard’s phenomenal track record of hyping vaporware products to the moon and then coming up with actual, tangible products that match and even exceed the hype.

    This looks like a really interesting product, although much about it is mysterious. Basically the idea is that you have a base unit with a state of the art 3D display, and add-on modules provide extra features. For instance, although the camera is a standard cellphone camera, the camera module will duplicate as much of the functionality of a RED camera that is possible given size, weight and pricing constraints. Alas, the price of the camera module has yet to be announced, so it’s unclear how good a deal this will actually be.

    Curiously enough this is the same basic design as the RED EPIC was – the EPIC has the same idea of a base unit (“brain”) and a ton of optional modules you can buy. So this is essentially a miniaturized version of EPIC technology plus a phone. One reason RED users are snapping it up despite what looks like a sky-high price is that you can use it to control your existing RED cameras wirelessly. So it’s a modernized RED remote control you can fit in your pocket, something that RED users have obviously been eager to have.

    If I had the kind of nearly unlimited money many RED Users have, I would have picked up one of these myself. I have faith in Jim and his ability, just like his other customers do, even if I don’t have their budgets. For now, though, I’m sitting on the sidelines waiting to see what happens next. And how much that RED camera module costs.

    • silmasan

      Heard it’s like a cult, but good that somebody is constantly pushing the tech forward. The big/old companies are too slow and too structured for progress and Jim Jannard rightly called them out on the “2K/1080p scam” few years ago. Today nothing has matched their 8K gears.

      I still have no idea how the “holographic display” works. Absolutely no showcase or whatever on the site..

      • Tech might’ve advanced a little, but generally it’s nothing new.

        They’ve tried to hit the market with ‘no glasses’ displays on smartphone, tablets and tvs like 3 years ago or something already, to no avail. Nobody bought into the ‘gimmick’. Especially the tvs didn’t really got a warm reception, reason being you needed to be dead center to perceive the 3D effect properly.

        Now that VR and AR catched on a little, it might be an interesting move to see if in today’s day and age the tech makes more sense.

        And if you like VR/AR/360 or whatever pr0n, this might be the ultimate device for you to watch it on. And hey, unlike the new iPhones it still features a 3.5mm hole you can put something in…

      • People do love Jim, but it’s pretty much like the well known veneration of Apple,and Steve Jobs, except that the people are really savvy and technically sophisticated.

        Some people on reduser found this, as likely basis for the technology, which does look similar to what RED claims:

    • “then coming up with actual, tangible products that match and even exceed the hype”
      You mean like the RED ONE that used to overheat and corrupt footage?

      • RED ONE definitely matched or exceeded the hype for those who could work around the initial bugs. When you try to innovate like RED has, that kind of situation is unfortunately inevitable. If you can’t roll with the punches and learn how to work around problems, then Arri has some excellent, conservatively designed cameras for you.

        • The workaround with the RED ONE was the put bags of ice on the camera, pray no files got corrupted and give valium to the mixer so he’d stop freaking out about the camera’s fan noise. Problems on set cost a lot of money, nobody wants to deal with a finicky camera if they can help it. We just couldn’t understand someone releasing a cinema camera that would randomly corrupt shots, pretty inexcusable in a production environment.

          We did side-by-side camera tests between the RED ONE, the Sony F35 and the Panavision Genesis. The DP switched to the Genesis after that, despite it being “only” 1080p.

          The current RED’s are fine, but most DP’s prefer the Alexa’s these days and 8k is massive overkill for cinema applications, though I understand it’s probably useful for multi-display/video wall situations.

  • kbb

    “RED Digital Cinema products are purchased by a savvy, highly competent user base that also happens to be fiercely loyal”
    Yeah, they’re loyal because a busy cinematographer can make $100,000 a year renting his Red koolaid to the productions he shoots. They’re not exactly terrible cameras, but they’re definitely the third class product in the market.

    • Les

      The first Red cameras had some issues, but the current ones are fine (and have been for years). Your notion that they are “third class” is outdated by almost a decade.

      • RED doesn’t seem to be concerned much with making a camera that produces better images, they put all their effort into more pixels and to a lesser extent, dynamic range. It’s still a noisy sensor that’s overly sensitive to IR.

  • Troll Warlord

    Had to check todays date. Not April first…

  • AlecM

    We’ll take it as Red then, not Read.

    • FountainHead

      Better Dead Than Red…

  • Birdie

    3D is dead 😛

    • I thought so too.

      • Not in China, it’s still HUGE there.

  • CHD

    who cares about a holographic display…what about the camera??

    • I don’t think the camera is going to be all that special.

  • Kenneth

    I remember reading a car mag review of the Lotus Esprit in high school times that went something like: nice, but should any 4 cylinder cost this much?

    Likewise: cool, but should any Android phone cost this much?

  • ZMWT

    Can someone translate this into English? I can’t understand so much technical jargon. What is this product, and what it does, and what problem it aims to solve?

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